Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

I was thinking the other day about a few of the players from the Eagles who got into trouble during the drug troubled years of the Eagles. Most noticeably, the late Chris Mainwaring and Ben Cousin, who I understand may be in a mental institution now (after a bunch of arrests for bizarre behavior last year). Now I don't know if the Eagles troubles during this period was limited just to these two blokes, I doubt it.

what I think is interesting is that no one really focuses on the fact that Mick Malthouse was the coach at that time. I wonder why nothing stuck on him for their behavior.

Listening to Terry Wallace talk about his meeting with Cousins, blind freddy would have known these guys were on the gear in a serious way.

My question is why didn't Mick do more to help these kids. Doesn't the club have a responsibility to their players to take care of them?

Don't know if Malthouse was in charge then.

There was Ken Judge and John Worsfold from 2000 onwards....

E wrote:I was thinking the other day about a few of the players from the Eagles who got into trouble during the drug troubled years of the Eagles. Most noticeably, the late Chris Mainwaring and Ben Cousin, who I understand may be in a mental institution now (after a bunch of arrests for bizarre behavior last year). Now I don't know if the Eagles troubles during this period was limited just to these two blokes, I doubt it.

what I think is interesting is that no one really focuses on the fact that Mick Malthouse was the coach at that time. I wonder why nothing stuck on him for their behavior.

Listening to Terry Wallace talk about his meeting with Cousins, blind freddy would have known these guys were on the gear in a serious way.

My question is why didn't Mick do more to help these kids. Doesn't the club have a responsibility to their players to take care of them?

There was also a midfielder whose name eludes me at the moment, who OD'd on a WCE end of season trip in the USA & came very close to death. Everyone knew what had happened but nothing was done as the AFL were unable to access the medical records.

Chad Fletcher

Yep, its all Micks fault.

Daniel wrote:Chad Fletcher

Thank's Daniel. I wasn't quite truthful. I was aware of the name but even though this is a notice board there is no immunity from defamation laws. If something is defamatory this board assists the plaintiff by publishing the amount of views the post has received.

Perhaps this might sit more comfortably in the "Other AFL" forum.

E wrote:My question is why didn't Mick do more to help these kids. Doesn't the club have a responsibility to their players to take care of them?

I'd wonder why the AFL hasn't done more, after Mainwaring's death I'd have thought that they'd have started to make sure players get help but then you have Tuck and Libba Jr have issues in public and they're banned but there's no duty of care there.

Nowadays the AFL knows whose doing what drug, but probably should be organising them help if they're not on the banned drugs rather than just giving out strikes.

I'm not sure the beginning of either Chris or Ben's drug use, but when a lot of it started coming out Mick wasn't there so it would be hard to do much. I suppose had he known about the issues maybe he'd have been able to help.

5 from the wing on debut wrote:

Daniel wrote:Chad Fletcher

Thank's Daniel. I wasn't quite truthful. I was aware of the name but even though this is a notice board there is no immunity from defamation laws. If something is defamatory this board assists the plaintiff by publishing the amount of views the post has received.

You can't be successfully sued for defamation if you are telling the truth.

MM

E wrote:I was thinking the other day about a few of the players from the Eagles who got into trouble during the drug troubled years of the Eagles. Most noticeably, the late Chris Mainwaring and Ben Cousin, who I understand may be in a mental institution now (after a bunch of arrests for bizarre behavior last year). Now I don't know if the Eagles troubles during this period was limited just to these two blokes, I doubt it.

what I think is interesting is that no one really focuses on the fact that Mick Malthouse was the coach at that time. I wonder why nothing stuck on him for their behavior.

Listening to Terry Wallace talk about his meeting with Cousins, blind freddy would have known these guys were on the gear in a serious way.

My question is why didn't Mick do more to help these kids. Doesn't the club have a responsibility to their players to take care of them?

FFS, Mick left them at the end of 1999.

Cast a long shadow, RB.

RudeBoy wrote:

E wrote:I was thinking the other day about a few of the players from the Eagles who got into trouble during the drug troubled years of the Eagles. Most noticeably, the late Chris Mainwaring and Ben Cousin, who I understand may be in a mental institution now (after a bunch of arrests for bizarre behavior last year). Now I don't know if the Eagles troubles during this period was limited just to these two blokes, I doubt it.

what I think is interesting is that no one really focuses on the fact that Mick Malthouse was the coach at that time. I wonder why nothing stuck on him for their behavior.

Listening to Terry Wallace talk about his meeting with Cousins, blind freddy would have known these guys were on the gear in a serious way.

My question is why didn't Mick do more to help these kids. Doesn't the club have a responsibility to their players to take care of them?

FFS, Mick left them at the end of 1999.

But they were his boys...

RudeBoy wrote:

E wrote:I was thinking the other day about a few of the players from the Eagles who got into trouble during the drug troubled years of the Eagles. Most noticeably, the late Chris Mainwaring and Ben Cousin, who I understand may be in a mental institution now (after a bunch of arrests for bizarre behavior last year). Now I don't know if the Eagles troubles during this period was limited just to these two blokes, I doubt it.

what I think is interesting is that no one really focuses on the fact that Mick Malthouse was the coach at that time. I wonder why nothing stuck on him for their behavior.

Listening to Terry Wallace talk about his meeting with Cousins, blind freddy would have known these guys were on the gear in a serious way.

My question is why didn't Mick do more to help these kids. Doesn't the club have a responsibility to their players to take care of them?

FFS, Mick left them at the end of 1999.

This is a absolute joke of a thread on so many levels. How many players tested positive to PED's under Malthouse at Collingwood? Under your logic Bucks just didnt do enough to stop Thomas and Keefe snorting coke and getting done for PED's.

I don't particularly want to bring this up, but under your logic I guess Matthews is responsible for Darren Millane (god rest his soul) too. Are Collingwood and Port Adelaide jointly responsible for JMac's (RIP) death?

Coaches really have very little control over the off feild behaviour of individual, or a group of, players. Didn't we have a load of guys hair test positive for drug use recently? That's one thing I don't blame Bucks for. He has f@ck all control over what players do in their own time. Young blokes will always test boundaries and experiment with booze and drugs.

All a club can do is provide good education on the subject matter, advise them to think about the consequences and then hope to god they make the right decision. If the club finds out about a "drug culture" then I guess the club can delist or trade them off or offer counselling.

I mean seriously, you dredge up this WCE sh!t and we just redrafted two players that admitted cocaine use and tested positive to PED's. From a hardline point of view people could say Collingwood is soft on drugs. But from a rational point of view I commend the club for giving the guys a second chance.

To unload the WCE issues onto Malthouse is just f@cking ridiculous. Have some respect for a Collingwood premiership coach.

I personally think that seeing that MM left in 1999 you would have to give him the benefit of doubt and assume that he bears little to no responsibility for what occurred after he left. I have some issues about MM's relationship with players but he should not be looked upon as being responsible for this mess.

jackcass wrote:

RudeBoy wrote:

E wrote:I was thinking the other day about a few of the players from the Eagles who got into trouble during the drug troubled years of the Eagles. Most noticeably, the late Chris Mainwaring and Ben Cousin, who I understand may be in a mental institution now (after a bunch of arrests for bizarre behavior last year). Now I don't know if the Eagles troubles during this period was limited just to these two blokes, I doubt it.

what I think is interesting is that no one really focuses on the fact that Mick Malthouse was the coach at that time. I wonder why nothing stuck on him for their behavior.

Listening to Terry Wallace talk about his meeting with Cousins, blind freddy would have known these guys were on the gear in a serious way.

My question is why didn't Mick do more to help these kids. Doesn't the club have a responsibility to their players to take care of them?

FFS, Mick left them at the end of 1999.

But they were his boys...

I wish he wasn't so worried about Chad Morrison.