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NSW 2023 State election

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So far, 10 seats have changed hands - 9 to the ALP and 1 (following a 28% swing away from the Libs) to an independent.
The Coalition has suffered massive swings and some losses in several regional New South Wales seats on the way to its election loss on Saturday night.

Labor has claimed the once safe Liberal South Coast seat with retiring incumbent Shelly Hancock unable to pass the reigns on to her former staffer, who ran as the candidate.

With a 14 per cent swing to Labor, Liza Butler will now represent the seat after a local campaign dominated by housing crisis, multiple natural disaster including the slow recovery from the Black Summer bushfires and concerns over poor roads.

The Labor Party has also swept the seat of Monaro near Canberra from the Nationals, which was once held by former party leader John Barilaro.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-25/ ... /102145992
Labor has picked up at least nine seats from the Coalition, including key seats in Western Sydney like Parramatta and Penrith, as well as the regional seats of South Coast and Monaro.

After the Coalition conceded they would lose formerly Liberal-held seats of Parramatta and South Coast, the numbers proved they could not form a majority government.

However, some seats are still in doubt and won't be decided until next week, with counting to resume on Monday.

Labor is currently ahead in the electorates of Goulburn, Holsworthy, Kiama, and Oatley, while Miranda, Pittwater, and Winston Hills are leaning towards Liberal.

Independents candidates are leading the way in Wollondilly, and Willoughby.

Former NSW Liberal premier Mike Baird said communities had been taken for granted, and Mr Perrottet was hampered by his own colleagues.

"He has fought this battle with two hands tied behind his back," he said.

"The Liberal Party has let down Dom."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-25/ ... /102145470
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And, with that victory, the whole of mainland Australia is governed at Federal and State/Territory level by the ALP.

Only the good people of Tasmania stand against the tide of socialism, communism. wokeism and the end of life as we know it. :wink:

The silent majority, of course, still vote LNP. The Herald-Sun knows that.
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Pretty good summation. NSW Labor own the patent on corrupt state governments and their Liberal mob is the best of a very underwhelming bunch.

In Murray, which is the only electorate I care about, the Independent was re-elected with a large majority of the primary vote, so the people got what they wanted.

It will be interesting to see how the red wall works, the usual pattern is for the Federal government to be different to the majority of states. I guess it's up to Labor as to what they do and how they're judged.
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Gorn, a new dawn. Perrotet was in a hiding to nothing ever since NSW:

Stuffed their handling of COVID by locking down the Western Suburbs and allowing the Eastern Suburbs to infect the rest of Australia;

Gladys giving her sleazebag Boyfriend inside information; and,

Too many internal stuff ups(John Barilaro anyone) including conflict of interests and perhaps to the detriment of the Liberal Party as a whole allowing the religious conservative right to start to take over
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Pies4shaw wrote:And, with that victory, the whole of mainland Australia is governed at Federal and State/Territory level by the ALP.

Only the good people of Tasmania stand against the tide of socialism, communism. wokeism and the end of life as we know it. :wink:

The silent majority, of course, still vote LNP. The Herald-Sun knows that.
It hasn't helped that Tasmanian Labor has been in a bit of a mess of late, with Rebecca White back as leader. I am not sure if she can get them across the line or not, she's got a bit of a mess to continue to clean up.
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One interesting aspect has been the surprising civility of both major parties and leaders in NSW.

No Abbott, Morrison, Barrilaro or Dutton makes the Liberals / Country Party seem almost palatable. Apart from Dutton they are part of the NSW party(s) notwithstanding the fact they are or were Federal.
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There's a good chance NSW Labor won't get the majority in their own right.

They need 47 seats, they have 45 and 4 are on a knives edge, they're in front in 1 of the 4.

I read somewhere that they already have a few of the 9 independants locked away, so they would be able to form a minority government without relying on the Greens.
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Good result if they do get a minority government. Will hopefully keep them honest.
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Imagine going back in a time machine to twenty years ago and telling someone that one day Pauline Hanson would be calling Mark Latham out for being a right-wing bigot.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-31/ ... /102166816
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That dipshit was nearly a Labor prime Minister.

What did he actually say in the now deleted tweet?

Don't worry, I found it. That would have been considered crass in the 80's.
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The Daily Mail, as has become increasingly common, is the only news site that will publish this stuff (even if only in censored form).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... n-NSW.html

While I understand the desire not to amplify abuse, it is frustrating to have news outlets report on these stories but offer nothing other than a vague allusion to what was said. Maybe a link to the archived tweet and a warning about its content would suffice.
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Yeah, that's where I found it. They do seem to be the only place willing to publish stuff like that, but I agree, a reputable news source should be able to reproduce unsavory quotes, stated in context, as part of informing people.

Many people would see that Latham was accused of a homophobic remark, and shrug it off, but if they got to read it, they'd have a different opinion. That was seriously poor, in fact it was a disgraceful comment.
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A look at the crossbenchers:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-29/ ... /102154828

Presuming the Liberals hang on in Ryde, Labor will need two votes from the nine independents and three Greens to pass legislation. They shouldn’t find that overly difficult: putting the three former Shooters and Fishers MPs and one former Liberal to one side, the other five independents (including one "Teal") all seem to lean progressive.

Some good news here is that the Greens and most of the independents support gambling reform and might be able to push Labor on that.
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