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The Kangaroos Myth
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 3:28 am
by Presti35
Round 1: Beats Adelaide at Etihad. (A good win to start the year).
Round 2: Beat Brisbane by about 6 goals at the Gabba. (No big deal).
Round 3: Beat Melbourne by 5 points. (A high scoring game that Melb could have won).
Round 4: Beat Freo by 30 points at Etihad. (Honestly, the Zimbabwe cricket team would beat Freo).
Round 5: Beat Gold Coast by about 7 goals at Metricon. (Suns one of the disappointments of 2016).
Round 6: Beat the Bulldogs by 3 goals at Etihad. (Probably the second worst game of football for the year - Carlton Vs Essendon was worse).
Round 7: Beat St Kilda by 7 points at Etihad. (Another one the average opposition could have won).
Round 8: Beat Essendon by 2 goals. (A second half shocker saw them scrape home against the worst, or second worst, team in the comp).
Round 9: Beat Carlton by ten goals. (Carlton are not a great side, its infuriating that we lost to them, make that embarrassing).
Round 10: Loses by 5 goals to Sydney at the SCG. (Swans in control from the opening bounce).
Now Im not saying that Collingwood are the team to beat, or that we are close or better than North. I mean our opening rounds were hardly anything to write home about. I'm just saying that their opening 9 rounds saw them play mostly average opposition.
Sure, you can only beat who you're fixtured against, but we will find out if they are the real thing in the coming weeks.
The Roos run home:
Richmond in Tassie.
Geelong at Etihad.
Hawthorn at Etihad.
Adelaide in Adelaide.
West Coast at Domain.
Port Adelaide at Etihad.
Collingwood at Etihad. (Our home game
)
St Kilda at Etihad.
Bulldogs at Etihad.
Hawthorn at MCG.
Sydney in Tassie.
GWS at Etihad.
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 1:21 pm
by Pies4shaw
I sort of agree, Presti. They haven't, for the most part, beaten much but, on the other hand, it was no disgrace to play an ordinary one against the Swans in Sydney last night.
What troubles me more, though, is the way that otherwise intelligent people over-rate teams because of wins they get at one particular venue. Unless that venue is the MCG, it doesn't really matter because the important finals aren't played there. So, who knows, frankly, if North or the Swans have a finals team? Answer, we think the Swans have because we've seen them win finals at the G. But from the actual season, at this stage, all we learn is whether they can get enough wins to get there. It's like Footscray - I'm reasonably confident they can't make, let alone win, a GF unless their team is quite radically restructured or the GF is played at Docklands, yet some media pundits seem to rate them a serious chance.
Paradoxically, Collingwood looks to me like a team that could win finals with its players and structure (if we play a competent CHF), provided the team keeps improving. Not this season, though.
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 2:13 pm
by David
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 6:32 pm
by Pies4shaw
That will still leave them with 11 and 4 and us no closer to knowing whether they can win a big MCG final.
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 7:25 pm
by Pies4shaw
I suppose we could draw a line through Freo, now, irrespective of whether they would be less worse at the MCG.
Re: The Kangaroos Myth
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:43 am
by Presti35
Presti35 wrote: The Roos run home:
Richmond in Tassie.
WIN. 70 points. Tigers are no trophy.
Geelong at Etihad.
LOSS. 31 points.
Hawthorn at Etihad.
LOSS. 9 points. Seemed competitive.
Adelaide in Adelaide.
LOSS. 33 points. Over run in the final term.
West Coast at Domain.
Port Adelaide at Etihad.
Collingwood at Etihad. (Our home game
)
St Kilda at Etihad.
Bulldogs at Etihad.
Hawthorn at MCG.
Sydney in Tassie.
GWS at Etihad.
They wont finish top 4.
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 2:34 pm
by Jezza
North were lucky that the Crows didn't smash them due to inaccurate kicking.
Re: The Kangaroos Myth
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:38 pm
by Presti35
Presti35 wrote: The Roos run home:
Richmond in Tassie.
WIN. 70 points. Tigers are no trophy.
Geelong at Etihad.
LOSS. 31 points.
Hawthorn at Etihad.
LOSS. 9 points. Seemed competitive.
Adelaide in Adelaide.
LOSS. 33 points. Over run in the final term.
West Coast at Domain.
LOSS. 32 points.
Port Adelaide at Etihad.
LOSS. 28 points. Woeful kicking at goal costly. Kicked the last 2 of the game, so the final margin is somewhat complimentary.
Collingwood at Etihad. (Our home game
)
St Kilda at Etihad.
Bulldogs at Etihad.
Hawthorn at MCG.
Sydney in Tassie.
GWS at Etihad.
All of a sudden next weeks game could be
HUGE
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:54 pm
by BEAMER09
half dozen of their players queue up at centrelink for their fortnightly pension and right behind them is scott/brayshaw picking up their carer's allowance...
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:08 am
by Presti35
I tell you after yesterdays result, the Power could be the team to steal the Roos top 8 spot. But their run home is not easy (Giants, Swans & Crows to come).
Seems like the Dees fans are giving themselves a chance too. But their run home is super difficult and they wont be able to make up the 2 game difference, and thats if they beat St Kilda today.
We are probably in the same boat as the Demons. But it all starts with next Fridays game.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:40 pm
by Jezza
Next Friday night's match is crucial for both teams.
If we win we're still a chance otherwise our season is over in terms of making finals. If North wins, it steadies the ship for now, but doesn't guarantee them a finals spot necessarily and if they were to lose the fallout could be huge.
Unfortunately, the media is criticising them now so expect them to show some kind of response on Friday night.
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:36 am
by ronrat
Jezza wrote:Next Friday night's match is crucial for both teams.
If we win we're still a chance otherwise our season is over in terms of making finals. If North wins, it steadies the ship for now, but doesn't guarantee them a finals spot necessarily and if they were to lose the fallout could be huge.
Unfortunately, the media is criticising them now so expect them to show some kind of response on Friday night.
We are no chance with that percentage. What we need to concentrate on is belting shite out of Hawthorn in the last round. Or have them hit us. Hodge can't get away with 4 fines in a year.
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:21 am
by Presti35
****!
Re: The Kangaroos Myth
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:18 pm
by Presti35
Presti35 wrote: The Roos run home:
Richmond in Tassie. WIN. 70 points. Tigers are no trophy.
Geelong at Etihad. LOSS. 31 points.
Hawthorn at Etihad. LOSS. 9 points. Seemed competitive.
Adelaide in Adelaide. LOSS. 33 points. Over run in the final term.
West Coast at Domain.LOSS. 32 points.
Port Adelaide at Etihad.LOSS. 28 points. Woeful kicking at goal costly. Kicked the last 2 of the game, so the final margin is somewhat complimentary.
Collingwood at Etihad. WIN. 40 points. Pies let themselves down, like most of the season.
St Kilda at Etihad.WIN. 23 points. Not a bad win. Kept the team that was right up their arse an extra game away.
Bulldogs at Etihad. LOSS. 14 points. Another disappointing game from these two clubs.
Hawthorn at MCG.
Sydney in Tassie. LOSS. 9 points. Came back and almost stole it. Seemed to play ok, but Swans made the most of Roos mistakes.
GWS at Etihad. One game left and cannot finish any higher than 8th. Could still actually fall out if they lose to GWS and Demons beat Carlton and Geelong.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:18 am
by Presti35
Well, I guess this was well and truly busted a few weeks back. And with the treatment of their older players, it shows even they knew it was a great Kangaroo myth.
Will be looking forward to meeting them next year.