Sth. Africa V. West Indies-2nd Test
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Sth. Africa V. West Indies-2nd Test
Kirsten and Adams back for South Africa
Wisden Cricinfo staff
South Africa today announced a 13-man squad for the second and third Test matches against West Indies.
Gary Kirsten returned following the birth of his son, while Paul Adams replaced Robin Peterson after recovering from a hand injury. Garnett Kruger, meanwhile, has been left out.
"Paul Adams is fit again and it was encouraging to see him put in a good performance for the KZN Invitation XI against South Africa schools yesterday," Omar Henry, the coach, said. "As far as Robbie Peterson is concerned, he is an exciting young talent on a steep learning curve who came up against one of the worlds great batsmen in top form at the Wanderers," he added, referring to when Brian Lara smashed Peterson for 28 runs in one over. "Knowing him, he would have learnt from that experience and will come back a better player."
Kirsten's recall means that one of the middle-order batsmen will miss out. "It's great to have a man of Gary's experience and talent back, he brings so much to the team," said Henry. "It also creates more competition among the younger players for a place in the middle order, and that is not a bad thing at all."
The second Test starts at Durban on December 26, and the third Test at Cape Town on January 2. South Africa are 1-0 up in the series following their comprehensive win at the Wanderers last week.
Squad Graeme Smith (capt), Mark Boucher (wk), Paul Adams, Herschelle Gibbs, Andrew Hall, Jacques Kallis, Gary Kirsten, Neil McKenzie, Makhaya Ntini, Andre Nel, Shaun Pollock, Jacques Rudolph, Martin van Jaarsveld.
Wisden Cricinfo staff
South Africa today announced a 13-man squad for the second and third Test matches against West Indies.
Gary Kirsten returned following the birth of his son, while Paul Adams replaced Robin Peterson after recovering from a hand injury. Garnett Kruger, meanwhile, has been left out.
"Paul Adams is fit again and it was encouraging to see him put in a good performance for the KZN Invitation XI against South Africa schools yesterday," Omar Henry, the coach, said. "As far as Robbie Peterson is concerned, he is an exciting young talent on a steep learning curve who came up against one of the worlds great batsmen in top form at the Wanderers," he added, referring to when Brian Lara smashed Peterson for 28 runs in one over. "Knowing him, he would have learnt from that experience and will come back a better player."
Kirsten's recall means that one of the middle-order batsmen will miss out. "It's great to have a man of Gary's experience and talent back, he brings so much to the team," said Henry. "It also creates more competition among the younger players for a place in the middle order, and that is not a bad thing at all."
The second Test starts at Durban on December 26, and the third Test at Cape Town on January 2. South Africa are 1-0 up in the series following their comprehensive win at the Wanderers last week.
Squad Graeme Smith (capt), Mark Boucher (wk), Paul Adams, Herschelle Gibbs, Andrew Hall, Jacques Kallis, Gary Kirsten, Neil McKenzie, Makhaya Ntini, Andre Nel, Shaun Pollock, Jacques Rudolph, Martin van Jaarsveld.
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Kirsten's return can only strengthen a formidable top order which I feel may prove will beyond the WI to consistently break or contain. Either Rudolph or Van Jaarsveld will miss out and would lean to Rudolph to carry the drinks.
Peterson was mauled by Lara but is still worth persevering with for a longer period. Tend to think he may add more to the side all around. Adams is a known factor and has never reaaly moved on from his early days. With the exception of Lara, many of the WI are still less than sensational against spin and Newlands is the track that will turn the most and is Adams home track.
Peterson was mauled by Lara but is still worth persevering with for a longer period. Tend to think he may add more to the side all around. Adams is a known factor and has never reaaly moved on from his early days. With the exception of Lara, many of the WI are still less than sensational against spin and Newlands is the track that will turn the most and is Adams home track.
he's an animal, what can u expect!!!
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Wombat i disagree with u when ya say that we're not very good players of spin with the exception of lara. Maybe 4-5 years ago but this batting line up plays spin very well.
As for Kirsten, Will be hard to Hit em over now with our Weak bowling line up, hopefully if we can get the score on the board early and put the pressure on we can square up this series.
I havent Givin up yet!
As for Kirsten, Will be hard to Hit em over now with our Weak bowling line up, hopefully if we can get the score on the board early and put the pressure on we can square up this series.
I havent Givin up yet!
got yourself a gun...
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Improved yes, top drawer no.
FYI, Newlands traditionally plays lower and slower than any of the venues for these 4 Tests. WI lack of a quality spinner will count against them squaring the series after this match.
Essentially, Lara heroics or at least massive performances from at least 2 of his support cast will be required in each of the remaining matches to have yr guys within a shot of winning. Whilst expecting some more heroics, I somehow doubt that they will come often enough for WI to win the series.
FYI, Newlands traditionally plays lower and slower than any of the venues for these 4 Tests. WI lack of a quality spinner will count against them squaring the series after this match.
Essentially, Lara heroics or at least massive performances from at least 2 of his support cast will be required in each of the remaining matches to have yr guys within a shot of winning. Whilst expecting some more heroics, I somehow doubt that they will come often enough for WI to win the series.
he's an animal, what can u expect!!!
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Injury-hit West Indies face battle
From correspondents in Durban - Fox Sports
THE West Indies, already hard hit by injuries, had a scare Wednesday when captain Brian Lara was taken to hospital for precautionary X-rays after being hit on the left arm during practice for the second Test against South Africa starting at Kingsmead Friday.
Manager Ricky Skerritt and coach Gus Logie both said they expected Lara to play Friday in what will be his 100th Test match.
But Logie revealed that opening batsman Chris Gayle and pace bowler Corey Collymore had both been ruled out because of hamstring injuries.
Logie said the injuries provided opportunities for young players to prove themselves but it was not clear which of the touring youngsters would play.
Uncapped specialist batsman Dwayne Smith and reserve wicketkeeper Carlton Baugh, who has played in two Tests, are the contenders for Gayle's batting place.
Fast bowler Adam Sanford, who took five wickets in the rain-hit match against Border last weekend, is likely to slot into Collymore's place if the West Indies decide on an all-seam attack, but left-arm spinner Dave Mohammed will also be considered.
The West Indies went into the first Test in Johannesburg, which South Africa won by 189 runs, without a specialist spin bowler because Gayle was expected to bowl a reasonable number of overs of off-spin.
But Gayle tore his hamstring early in the match and did not bowl.
Logie said the final decision would be made after a discussion with former batting star Viv Richards, the convenor of selectors, who joined the squad in Durban.
The South Africans will go into the match as favourites after a convincing win in Johannesburg. They have no major injury worries, although the selectors will want to be sure that opening batsman Herschelle Gibbs has fully recovered after suffering a broken nose in the first Test.
Experienced batsman Gary Kirsten will return for South Africa after missing the first Test to be at the birth of his first child. South Africa named a squad of 13, so it was not clear which of Jacques Rudolph, Neil McKenzie and Martin van Jaarsveld would make way for Kirsten.
In another change, left-arm wrist spinner Paul Adams replaced orthodox left-armer Robin Peterson but the state of the Kingsmead pitch will determine whether Adams is in the starting line-up.
If it is decided, conditions are likely to be seam-friendly, all-rounder Andrew Hall could be picked to augment the South African pace attack.
Lara again shapes as a key player after making 202 in the first innings in Johannesburg. He will be only the sixth West Indian and 28th player in history to appear in 100 Test matches.
He will be hoping for better support from his teamates. Only Daren Ganga and Shivnarine Chanderpaul made half-centuries for the West Indies in the first Test as pressure exerted by South Africa's disciplined bowling attack told on the tourists.
Vice-captain Ramnaresh Sarwan showed signs of a return to form when he made an unbeaten 71 against Border. He said after Wednesday's practice that he had benefitted from advice to "watch the ball more closely."
The West Indies wrapped up their formal preparation before the South Africans got down to work. The home side were due to practice Wednesday afternoon and again on Christmas Day.
Logie said there would be a voluntary practice for the tourists Thursday.
Teams:
South Africa: Graeme Smith (captain), Mark Boucher (vice-captain), Herschelle Gibbs, Jacques Rudolph, Jacques Kallis, Gary Kirsten, Neil McKenzie, Martin van Jaarsveld, Shaun Pollock, Andrew Hall, Paul Adams, Makhaya Ntini, Andre Nel.
West Indies: Brian Lara (captain), Ramnaresh Sarwan (vice-captain), Wavell Hinds, Daren Ganga, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Dwayne Smith, Ridley Jacobs, Carlton Baugh, Vasbert Drakes, Mervyn Dillon, Fidel Edwards, Ravindarnath Rampaul, Adam Sanford, Dave Mohammed.
Umpires: Simon Taufel and Darrell Hair (AUS). Television umpire: Ian Howell (RSA). Match referee: Ranjan Madugalle (SRI).
From correspondents in Durban - Fox Sports
THE West Indies, already hard hit by injuries, had a scare Wednesday when captain Brian Lara was taken to hospital for precautionary X-rays after being hit on the left arm during practice for the second Test against South Africa starting at Kingsmead Friday.
Manager Ricky Skerritt and coach Gus Logie both said they expected Lara to play Friday in what will be his 100th Test match.
But Logie revealed that opening batsman Chris Gayle and pace bowler Corey Collymore had both been ruled out because of hamstring injuries.
Logie said the injuries provided opportunities for young players to prove themselves but it was not clear which of the touring youngsters would play.
Uncapped specialist batsman Dwayne Smith and reserve wicketkeeper Carlton Baugh, who has played in two Tests, are the contenders for Gayle's batting place.
Fast bowler Adam Sanford, who took five wickets in the rain-hit match against Border last weekend, is likely to slot into Collymore's place if the West Indies decide on an all-seam attack, but left-arm spinner Dave Mohammed will also be considered.
The West Indies went into the first Test in Johannesburg, which South Africa won by 189 runs, without a specialist spin bowler because Gayle was expected to bowl a reasonable number of overs of off-spin.
But Gayle tore his hamstring early in the match and did not bowl.
Logie said the final decision would be made after a discussion with former batting star Viv Richards, the convenor of selectors, who joined the squad in Durban.
The South Africans will go into the match as favourites after a convincing win in Johannesburg. They have no major injury worries, although the selectors will want to be sure that opening batsman Herschelle Gibbs has fully recovered after suffering a broken nose in the first Test.
Experienced batsman Gary Kirsten will return for South Africa after missing the first Test to be at the birth of his first child. South Africa named a squad of 13, so it was not clear which of Jacques Rudolph, Neil McKenzie and Martin van Jaarsveld would make way for Kirsten.
In another change, left-arm wrist spinner Paul Adams replaced orthodox left-armer Robin Peterson but the state of the Kingsmead pitch will determine whether Adams is in the starting line-up.
If it is decided, conditions are likely to be seam-friendly, all-rounder Andrew Hall could be picked to augment the South African pace attack.
Lara again shapes as a key player after making 202 in the first innings in Johannesburg. He will be only the sixth West Indian and 28th player in history to appear in 100 Test matches.
He will be hoping for better support from his teamates. Only Daren Ganga and Shivnarine Chanderpaul made half-centuries for the West Indies in the first Test as pressure exerted by South Africa's disciplined bowling attack told on the tourists.
Vice-captain Ramnaresh Sarwan showed signs of a return to form when he made an unbeaten 71 against Border. He said after Wednesday's practice that he had benefitted from advice to "watch the ball more closely."
The West Indies wrapped up their formal preparation before the South Africans got down to work. The home side were due to practice Wednesday afternoon and again on Christmas Day.
Logie said there would be a voluntary practice for the tourists Thursday.
Teams:
South Africa: Graeme Smith (captain), Mark Boucher (vice-captain), Herschelle Gibbs, Jacques Rudolph, Jacques Kallis, Gary Kirsten, Neil McKenzie, Martin van Jaarsveld, Shaun Pollock, Andrew Hall, Paul Adams, Makhaya Ntini, Andre Nel.
West Indies: Brian Lara (captain), Ramnaresh Sarwan (vice-captain), Wavell Hinds, Daren Ganga, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Dwayne Smith, Ridley Jacobs, Carlton Baugh, Vasbert Drakes, Mervyn Dillon, Fidel Edwards, Ravindarnath Rampaul, Adam Sanford, Dave Mohammed.
Umpires: Simon Taufel and Darrell Hair (AUS). Television umpire: Ian Howell (RSA). Match referee: Ranjan Madugalle (SRI).
Donny.
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It's a game. Enjoy it.
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Ah it is at Durban, must have misread that itinery and thought the second was in Capte Town.
Kingsmead is traditionally a good batting track with regular pace and bounce. Pace bowlers generally don't mind it here and early in the match can generally get v sinificant assistance. This is Pollock's home track (and mine, going back into the depths of the early 80's)
Spin can get some assistance but the spin quality on hand doesn't look of earth shattering quality. Will SA go all pace???? Would guard against it because Hall is a VERY mediocre cricketer at the top level and is insipid with the ball. Adams in will weaken the batting but may still be a threat against some of the WI order.
Kingsmead is traditionally a good batting track with regular pace and bounce. Pace bowlers generally don't mind it here and early in the match can generally get v sinificant assistance. This is Pollock's home track (and mine, going back into the depths of the early 80's)
Spin can get some assistance but the spin quality on hand doesn't look of earth shattering quality. Will SA go all pace???? Would guard against it because Hall is a VERY mediocre cricketer at the top level and is insipid with the ball. Adams in will weaken the batting but may still be a threat against some of the WI order.
he's an animal, what can u expect!!!
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Sth. Africa won the toss and sent the Windies in to bat.
The Proteas go in with no spinners. Hall and Kirsten come in and replace van Jaarsveld and Peterson.
Baugh and Sanford are the new faces for the Windies.
Pollock strikes in his first over, claiming Hinds for a duck.
The Proteas go in with no spinners. Hall and Kirsten come in and replace van Jaarsveld and Peterson.
Baugh and Sanford are the new faces for the Windies.
Pollock strikes in his first over, claiming Hinds for a duck.
Donny.
It's a game. Enjoy it.
It's a game. Enjoy it.