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For years Australia's farmers have pegged their future prosperity on the growing Chinese market, but those targeted by a barrage of trade sanctions are developing new trade ties.

Twelve months after Beijing kicked off rolling trade sanctions by slapping tariffs on barley, affected exporters are waking from their Chinese dreams and offsetting losses by trading with other countries.

The shift has prompted a leading Australian think tank to label Beijing's strategic campaign of economic "coercion" against Canberra a failure.
Other industry's are doing similar, while they may not all be making as much profit, they're unlikely to fold. Developing alternative markets rather than putting all the eggs in the China basket was always the smart thing to do, now people have been burned they've learned. It's unlikely that in future China will be in a position to hold so much power over our economy, whether the trade situation repairs or not.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021- ... /100127874
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Pi wrote:I'm shocked.....the PLA and the glorious Communist regime might be up to things?

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commen ... 60a254298f
Ok so I was gullible enough to fall for this one too, but how many times do people need to get hoodwinked by News Corp before they stop believing the rubbish they print? :roll:

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episo ... s/13347758
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stui magpie wrote:Developing alternative markets rather than putting all the eggs in the China basket was always the smart thing to do...
Well, it would have been when some of us were calling vociferously for it. Which begs the question, of course: why have so many people excitedly, religiously and fanatically supported the Glibs in aggressively pursuing the exact opposite for 20 years?

The record is startling: the mining industry-Glib coalition which opposed a mining windfall tax to be invested in the development of other industries; the undermining of climate science/green energy/green tech and pi$$ing away of Australia's natural advantages in this regard; the creation a corrupt revolving door between Glib HQ and Big Mining, ensuring corrupt mining thugs ran national policy solely for their own short-term interest; the desperate wrecking of a once-in-a-generation opportunity to roll out HQ broadband, the key underlying infrastructure of 21st-century industry and jobs; the appointment of that great hater of science, technology and economic base broadening, and mining's chief hand and propagandist, Abbott; the dismissal of the now globally dominant tech industry as a latte sipping cafe fad as if it were a trivial aside in the culture wars, not the major industry on many major global indices today; and much more. The Glibs have undermined economic broadening at every single step and turn for two decades and are clearly its outright avowed enemies.

It's astonishing to think that the very same ideological extremists and quacks who created this narrow and distorted economy are the very same kooks who supported Iraq and fawned over Trump, and the very same whackos sleepwalking Australia into disaster in Asia because Alan Jones and the Send Somalians Home Facebook Group concur.

It's beyond comprehension and bears reiterating: the very same fanatics who have got every major issue wrong for 20 years have been handed the authority to deal with China and the region on your behalf; i.e., the dumbest set of people you could possibly throw a blanket over anywhere on earth have been appointed to deal with the most difficult, vexing and consequential problem arguably ever facing Australia.

Australia is sleepwalking into a dumb-arse led disaster fronted by utter human waste whose high points include: supporting Bush and Cheney's catastrophic and monstrously repugnant and expensive Afghanistan and Iraq war failures; creating massive economic sector underdevelopment by selling out the national interest to Big Mining for easy money and political power; undermining science, technology and learning in a desperate grab for the climate change denying, anti-vaxxing, conspiracy mongering, science-hating vote; and fawning after failed mass wrecker and international embarrassment, Trump, becoming the malignant narcissist's collateral damage in Asia.

It's as if people sat down and said: let's appoint the most drooling, foul-stenched Neanderthals we can find who have got every major issue completely wrong for two decades without fail, turning everything they touch into dog faeces, and wasting every penny the nation earned for two decades on lining their own pockets through the mining industry revolving door, because we are literally going with the most lowlife, ignorant, incompetent scumbags we can find to stick it to the universe in one last giant middle finger of destruction on China and Asia.

Honestly, utterly creepy crackpot Dutton as Defence Minister and suburban shoe store retail manager and weekend church pot luck master Captain Hillsong are the best you've got leading on China and Asian region policy? Are the Church of Scientology and the Taliban also making submissions? Perhaps the Westboro Baptist Church and al-Shabab could be called in to bring some sophisticated contemporary cultural awareness to bear on the challenge?

God bloody help us all. It's criminal negligence of the highest order, yet again. It would be slapstick comedy if it weren't so horrifying.
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stui magpie wrote:Meanwhile
For years Australia's farmers have pegged their future prosperity on the growing Chinese market, but those targeted by a barrage of trade sanctions are developing new trade ties.

Twelve months after Beijing kicked off rolling trade sanctions by slapping tariffs on barley, affected exporters are waking from their Chinese dreams and offsetting losses by trading with other countries.

The shift has prompted a leading Australian think tank to label Beijing's strategic campaign of economic "coercion" against Canberra a failure.
Other industry's are doing similar, while they may not all be making as much profit, they're unlikely to fold. Developing alternative markets rather than putting all the eggs in the China basket was always the smart thing to do, now people have been burned they've learned. It's unlikely that in future China will be in a position to hold so much power over our economy, whether the trade situation repairs or not.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021- ... /100127874
my hubby has been saying this for over 10 years, hopefully one good thing comes out of this pandemic and thats that we take away the power we have given China over our economy, as you say here. Scary thought having China march through our streets and Parliaments. its about Australia called their bluff and found other markets, even if its not as profitable. i still think in someways its mother natures way of saying enough is enough, and the whole world needs to make countries such as China, and indeed themselves, stop treating live animals as their own private playthings. Stop treating the ocean as landfill, and quit using such harmful manufacturing processes.
so yeah i could not agree more with you.
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watt price tully wrote:This isn’t very difficult ( why is Scotty from Marketing’s Government ratcheting up the war talk)

Throwing the switch to Vaudeville, look over there,

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/fede ... 57nu4.html
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-18/ ... /100147718
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Of course she does
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I would have been in the gulag long ago had this gone ahead.

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/fed ... l#comments

more here

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/5g-ch ... d-affairs/

The Borg analogy kind of fits, especially when you look at how the CCP uses technology for surveillance on its own citizens.

https://time.com/5735411/china-surveill ... cy-issues/

Although the suggestion here is its probably not going to work as intended, as in the more you coerce self censorship the less you know about what people are really thinking.

https://thediplomat.com/2021/04/chinas- ... nce-state/
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Yep. And as we know the CCP have no qualms about using any means to apply leverage.

That was all some very interesting stuff Pi. Thanks for that.
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