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^Paywalled Australian article is his?
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Is The Australian article I can't access different again?
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pietillidie wrote:^Paywalled Australian article is his?
No, I meant 5FTWOD comment.

This relates to the paywalled article. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6253431999001

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5 from the wing on debut wrote:And for some more context, this time relevant, it escaped from China, not from the USA, despite the bullshit the CCP spun in the initial stages on that issue.
Ah, I didn't quite make the connection that this story was being cynically used to push the "COVID-19 as an act of biological warfare" conspiracy theory. Please carry on.
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David wrote:Pretty unpleasant stuff, but here's some context just in case people think this kind of stuff is a one-way thing (check out the last section in particular):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... ns_program


Bio weapons have been going on since the first plague infected corpse was lobbed over a city wall during a siege at Syracuse in 212 AD probably earlier.

We should not be surprised if something leaked out of a lab; anything from cross contamination of lab animals to bio weapons experiments gone wrong. None of it needs to be a moustache twirling conspiracy theory, you can easily put it down to incompetence and corruption followed up with lies and deceit.

Even with the limited investigation the WHO was allowed to do the possibility remains of a leak from a bio lab.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00865-8

Even now the Chinese government still believes it can treat the rest of the world like it treats its own people.
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David wrote:
5 from the wing on debut wrote:And for some more context, this time relevant, it escaped from China, not from the USA, despite the bullshit the CCP spun in the initial stages on that issue.
Ah, I didn't quite make the connection that this story was being cynically used to push the "COVID-19 as an act of biological warfare" conspiracy theory. Please carry on.
That wasn't the point of my post and you know it.

Regardless of whether covid came from an escape from a lab (whether it was a biological warfare research project or not) or from bat sauce on their cat burgers, it came from China.

Acting as an apologist for China and saying "look over there at what the USA is doing" doesn't provide any context at all. It's just a diversion.

FWIW (which is nothing) it's my view that covid did come from the lab in Wuhan. That is the most logical conclusion to reach. Whether the research being done there was for biological warfare is another question. Given the regime there is built upon corruption, theft, genocide and generally not being very nice people, leads many people to form a view as to what was occurring there and why.
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Pi wrote:We should not be surprised if something leaked out of a lab; anything from cross contamination of lab animals to bio weapons experiments gone wrong. None of it needs to be a moustache twirling conspiracy theory, you can easily put it down to incompetence and corruption followed up with lies and deceit.
And yet it is, because suggestion without probability is conspiracy ipso facto. <snip>
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^
There is plenty of probability, it would be irrational to suggest otherwise.
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pietillidie wrote:
Pi wrote:We should not be surprised if something leaked out of a lab; anything from cross contamination of lab animals to bio weapons experiments gone wrong. None of it needs to be a moustache twirling conspiracy theory, you can easily put it down to incompetence and corruption followed up with lies and deceit.
And yet it is, because suggestion without probability is conspiracy ipso facto. Pi is indeed an irrational number.
What is irrational is your comment.
Get yourself a dictionary and find out what a conspiracy is. Once you have done that, find out what a conspiracy theory is.

PS. You have also used ipso facto in an incorrect context.
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5 from the wing on debut wrote:FWIW (which is nothing) it's my view that covid did come from the lab in Wuhan. That is the most logical conclusion to reach.
Logical? I look forward to you reasoning through the science for us in the first lesson.

What is it with people insisting they need to have a view on things they know nothing about? Or is this like the mining industry's 'view' on global warming?

It's tiring pointing out the obvious whenever the latest hysteria directed at some maligned group or entity drives people to pretend they're being 'logical'. Here's to more wasted hours dealing with the latest impulsive cottage industry driving the nation's geniuses to shake their fists and wreck things.
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Pi wrote:^
There is plenty of probability, it would be irrational to suggest otherwise.
That's a blinder. You've merely restated the conspiracy with a new weasel phrase to avoid defining and quantifying anything. As I say, conspiracy ipso facto.

At least global warming deniers let paid shills deliver the dirty package rather than soiling their own hands with the stuff.
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So Dr Tedros is a weasel.... I'll pass that on

“I do not believe that this assessment was extensive enough,” he wrote. “This requires further investigation, potentially with additional missions involving specialist experts, which I am ready to deploy.”


https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/who-c ... 04258.html
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