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Mugwump wrote:I don't think it's about the sum total of Islam's effect. It's about the fact that the slogan is dumb and evidently untrue, as Islam-inspired atrocities and intolerance mount right across the world.
But it's only as untrue as the reverse is. And that's what I think people really don't get. Through this kind of reportage, a picture is constructed of Islam as an entire faith (and one that many people would happily colour in for us). I think those who understand basic history and sociology can see those facile analyses for what they are, but a great number of people quite clearly don't, and unfortunately the anti-Islamic crowd are winning the argument right now through sheer attrition.
One cause is certainly media gazing being confused with serious knowledge. Having pursued a different tactic this week of studying the German thing closely just to see what people are absorbing and how that sort of knowledge process works, it's a circular reinforcement machine of emotion which does nothing to improve any serious category of knowledge. Basically, it's a distracting time waster that returns very little for the effort you give it.
Let's be honest; no one gave a rat's arse about Indonesia last week.
Just like no one, say, gives a rat's arse about the Philippines until something occasional associated with a Muslim is reported there. Yet, air lift every single Muslim from the Philippines and the country is a Muslim-free train wreck. But if you don't know it's already a train wreck, and why, your new bit of knowledge is just a distraction, fooling you into thinking you now know something important about the Philippines, when you don't.
People obviously need to stop rubber-necking with the media car crashes.
People need to stop blowing other people up in the name of Islam, then there would be nothing to look at.
It's kind of like an infection in your body that pops up here and there and makes a pussy mess, sometimes you get a mozzie bite, but you still check to see if it's the Islam bug that will make more of a mess, than a simple mozzie bite.
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
David wrote:
But it's only as untrue as the reverse is. And that's what I think people really don't get. Through this kind of reportage, a picture is constructed of Islam as an entire faith (and one that many people would happily colour in for us). I think those who understand basic history and sociology can see those facile analyses for what they are, but a great number of people quite clearly don't, and unfortunately the anti-Islamic crowd are winning the argument right now through sheer attrition.
One cause is certainly media gazing being confused with serious knowledge. Having pursued a different tactic this week of studying the German thing closely just to see what people are absorbing and how that sort of knowledge process works, it's a circular reinforcement machine of emotion which does nothing to improve any serious category of knowledge. Basically, it's a distracting time waster that returns very little for the effort you give it.
Let's be honest; no one gave a rat's arse about Indonesia last week.
Just like no one, say, gives a rat's arse about the Philippines until something occasional associated with a Muslim is reported there. Yet, air lift every single Muslim from the Philippines and the country is a Muslim-free train wreck. But if you don't know it's already a train wreck, and why, your new bit of knowledge is just a distraction, fooling you into thinking you now know something important about the Philippines, when you don't.
People obviously need to stop rubber-necking with the media car crashes.
People need to stop blowing other people up in the name of Islam, then there would be nothing to look at.
It's certainly been a busy start to the year by the" aloha snackbar " bunch.
2016.01.19 Pakistan Jamrud 11 dead 31 wounded
Eleven people at a market are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2016.01.18 Cameroon Nguetchewe 4 dead 2 wounded
A suicide bomber hits a rival mosque, taking out four woshippers.
2016.01.17 Israel Otniel 1 dead
A mother of six children is stabbed to death in her home by an Arab terrorist.
2016.01.17 Yemen Aden 11 dead 15 wounded
A Fedayeen suicide bomber rams a bus into the home of a policeman, killing eleven.
2016.01.16 Syria Baghaliyeh 300 dead 400 wounded
Three hundred people are reported massacred during an ISIS assault on a small town featuring a suicide blast and 'door-to-door' beheadings.
2016.01.16 Iraq al-Furat 1 dead
An accused homosexual is flung from a roof by Religion of Peace proponents.
2016.01.15 Burkina Faso Ouagadougou 29 dead 56 wounded
Dozens of tourists from eighteen countries are massacred by Islamic extremists shouting praises to Allah at a luxury hotel.
2016.01.14 Indonesia Jakarta 4 dead 20 wounded
Four suicide bombers attack a shopping and restaurant district, managing to kill four civilians.
2016.01.13 Cameroon Kolofata 10 dead 11 wounded
Two female suicide bombers detonate at a rival mosque, taking out ten worshippers.
2016.01.13 Pakistan Quetta 15 dead 24 wounded
A Shahid suicide bomber slaughters fifteen people at a polio clinic.
2016.01.12 Turkey Istanbul 11 dead 15 wounded
A Syrian 'refugee' with a suicide vest self-detonates in a bustling tourist area, slaughtering ten bystanders, including eight Germans.
2016.01.12 Iraq Diyala 2 dead
Two journalists are shot to death by terrorists.
2016.01.11 Iraq Muqdadiya 23 dead 51 wounded
Two dozen Iraqis are torn limb from limb by a couple of well-placed bombs at a crowded coffee shop.
2016.01.11 Syria Aleppo 3 dead 2 wounded
Three children are disassembled by a Sunni rocket.
2016.01.11 Afghanistan Khost 3 dead 8 wounded
Fundamentalists fire a rocket into a secondary school, killing three pupils.
2016.01.24 Nigeria Babangida 1 dead
An elderly man is killed by Boko Haram as they are burning down his home.
2016.01.23 Iraq Fallujah 10 dead
Ten young boys are summarily executed for attempting to escape the caliphate.
2016.01.23 Pakistan Bhal Syeda 1 dead
A Shiite is beheaded by radical Sunnis
2016.01.21 Egypt Giza 10 dead 13 wounded
ISIS claims a bombing at a tourist area that leaves ten others dead.
2016.01.21 Somalia Mogadishu 20 dead 20 wounded
Gunmen shout praises to Allah as they slaughter patrons at a beach-side restaurant during an attack that began with a suicide bombing.
2016.01.20 Pakistan Charsadda 21 dead 17 wounded
Gunmen storm a university and shout praises to Allah while massacring over twenty civilians.
2016.01.20 Afghanistan Kabul 7 dead 24 wounded
Seven TV station employees burn to death after a Shahid suicide bomber slams into their minibus.
These dickheads need to realise they are could create a monster. If the Republican nutjobs get over the line in the US and if the EU almost collapses they will be FUBARed. If the oil price crashes they won't have anything to fall on and the rest of the world will keep the money. The next war they could well be fighting with sticks and rocks. We now see Germany and Japan rearming and all of a sudden the game has changed.
ronrat wrote:These dickheads need to realise they are could create a monster. If the Republican nutjobs get over the line in the US and if the EU almost collapses they will be FUBARed. If the oil price crashes they won't have anything to fall on and the rest of the world will keep the money. The next war they could well be fighting with sticks and rocks. We now see Germany and Japan rearming and all of a sudden the game has changed.
One thing about bullets. you can't eat them.
You're probably giving them too much credit for strategy, RR. Like all extremists, they are really making it up as they go along, and hoping that chaos drops some things their way.
FBI thwarts mass shooting at Milwaukee Masonic center
Hamzeh, 23, has been charged with possessing a machine gun and a silencer. Despite indications of an attempted act of terrorism, Hamzeh is not charged with any terrorism counts.
"We are Muslims, defending Muslim religion, we are on our own, my dear, we have organized our own group," Hamzeh said, according to the criminal complaint, adding he was confident it would trigger more attacks in the United States.
