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stui magpie wrote:Accusations that a now sacked cardinal funneled over $1m to Australia to try to influence the Pell trial in order to get a conviction.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-20/ ... s/12795476

How do you 'wire' that amount of money somewhere without leaving an audit trail?
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I think it might be like the disinformation sent by the Russians to Guilianni about Bidens son being up to no good: didn't happen.
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I don't think we have enough information in either case to confidently assert that. The allegations may or may not be true, but do you really reckon the Italian press are making stuff up on an Australian cardinal's behalf?

(As for the Hunter Biden stuff being painted as a Russian op, I have a bridge in St Petersburg to sell anyone who's swallowed that narrative whole. But I will try to resist going off-topic. :P)
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David wrote:I don't think we have enough information in either case to confidently assert that. The allegations may or may not be true, but do you really reckon the Italian press are making stuff up on an Australian cardinal's behalf?

(As for the Hunter Biden stuff being painted as a Russian op, I have a bridge in St Petersburg to sell anyone who's swallowed that narrative whole. But I will try to resist going off-topic. :P)
The Republican head of the FBI has stated this (re Biden). So I'm going off that.

Have you got Hilary making a Margarita with extra cheese too?
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watt price tully wrote:
David wrote:I don't think we have enough information in either case to confidently assert that. The allegations may or may not be true, but do you really reckon the Italian press are making stuff up on an Australian cardinal's behalf?

(As for the Hunter Biden stuff being painted as a Russian op, I have a bridge in St Petersburg to sell anyone who's swallowed that narrative whole. But I will try to resist going off-topic. :P)
The Republican head of the FBI has stated this (re Biden). So I'm going off that.

Have you got Hilary making a Margarita with extra cheese too?

"...• The granular details of many of the allegations about Hunter Biden’s dealings in China are supported by documentation, but larger conclusions resurrected at the end of the 2020 campaign are unsubstantiated.

• Foreign policy experts say these allegations do not add up to a picture of Joe Biden being corrupt or pursuing policies contrary to the national interest. There is no evidence that Hunter Biden came close to breaking the law, much less any evidence that his father has done so.

• Critics say that the Trump family’s financial entanglements are at least as problematic, if not more so, than the Bidens’.."

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020 ... oe-biden-/
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[quote="watt price tully"][quote="David"]I don't think we have enough information in either case to confidently assert that. The allegations may or may not be true, but do you really reckon the Italian press are making stuff up on an Australian cardinal's behalf?

(As for the Hunter Biden stuff being painted as a Russian op, I have a bridge in St Petersburg to sell anyone who's swallowed that narrative whole. But I will try to resist going off-topic. :P)[/quote]

The Republican head of the FBI has stated this (re Biden). So I'm going off that.

Have you got Hilary making a Margarita with extra cheese too?[/quote]

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There are two main sources for the story. They are Rudi Guiliani (Trump's dirty tricks lawyer) and Steve Bannon (Trump's former campaign chief).

And people like David believe them ....
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Tannin wrote:There are two main sources for the story. They are Rudi Guiliani (Trump's dirty tricks lawyer) and Steve Bannon (Trump's former campaign chief).

And people like David believe them ....
No, there are three: The New York Post

Planet America tonight basically put to bed the issues re Biden (no evidence) of corruption. As my second post above re fact checking, Trump is far safer bet for wrongdoing. Still....
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I don't read the guardian, It's not a news site.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-04/ ... /100190944

Right wrong or indifferent, they all knew the law and they flouted it for clickbait/sales/ratings. No major problems from me. Think of the Me Too examples where media coverage hasn't influenced the court result but ruined the career of people proven not guilty in court.
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It was all about clickbait/ratings/revenue.

That's what drives the media these days. You want to get funding to do a great investigative piece? What's the potential ROI is the first question, is it in the public interest is only pulled out as a defense.
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Figure this is as good a place as any to put this (as I doubt he’ll be getting an RIP thread!)

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101843096
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since its not i'll just say no great loss!!!!

though id be interested to see his interview at the pearly, or not so pearly gates!
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