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Pies4Life · Post by **Pies4Life** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:23 pm

Ive heard that Adcock is in serious doubt whilst Copeland wont play

Last year Copeland killed us by tagging H Shaw, thats a big loss for the lions cause he can play different roles

Zakal · Post by **Zakal** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:27 pm

cfc2009-10-11-12 wrote:I still dont think we will replace him with another tall against the Lions, we will go for pace. Burns & possibly Ben Johnson in. Reid will have his shot against the Tigers.

Reid has pace. But I am tempted to just bring Burns in for Ruz and rotate Burnsy into the forward line except for the Centre Bounces.

Mr. Chairman · Post by **Mr. Chairman** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:36 pm

daicos35 wrote:Rhyce has to play this week. The sight of a Brisbane jumper is gunna be like a hot poker to him. If he keeps going like this he'll bury alot of demons in 2008. Please, play Rhyce, he's a magpie, through and through.

The other players we have aren't magpie through and through because their name isn't Shaw right? Egan surely is not magpies through and through because he is black right? Anyway we've been burying the supposed demons for five years now.

I don't think we performed that badly against Brisbane back when they were dominant, we certainly played alot better than most sides did against that team. How many sides beat them back then??

Every time we beat them, it's "we've buried demons", every time they beat us it's "ahh Brisbane still have the wood on Collingwood", how long can this merry go round of bullsh1t carry on for? 2050, "err get out the shovel Collingwood have beaten Brissie, looks like they have buried those demons"

ps. I realise you probably weren't referring to Collingwood's demons but Rhyce's specifically but what I said applies to most people's opinion. Also just ignore the black call, I'm sure you aren't racist but I do believe alot of people are subconsiously and indirectly racist towards aboriginal players, they tend to get judged more harshly and people often make up their mind quicker on them. If Egan was white I doubt people would say "ra ra ra I don't think he goes in hard enough" sure people are saying it for Lonie now, but not when he was 21.

melliot · Post by **melliot** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:56 pm

Peter Daicos was on SEN this morning and said he thought Ego could be the replacement deep forward for Ruzza. Tend to agree. Gives us some good mobility. Ego is a little soft (maybe with some confidence will harden up a bit more and want to get involved), but has good pace and height as a leading forward moving deep or up to the flanks/wing. Also gives us another midfield rotation.

In fact I thought we functioned better when Ruzza went off. As I've said before, Ruzza is one dimensional and if that dimension doesn't work he is almost a liability. Anyone agree?

Wouldn't drop racer either. Was easily one of our best. Towelled up Headland in the middle and the Dockers moved him to F50 to prevent Racers pace advantage over him.

I'm a big fan of Reid and want him to get Games (Also in my Supercoach team!). Hard to argue for him to get a spot when Ego can play his role and rotate midfield and played well last week. Although Ried would strech the Lions defense.

So with Ego going forward, this leaves a midfield spot for either Johno or Burnsy. Both IMO are walk ups to our side if fully fit and match hardened. I predict Johno is in for a big one this year (like 2006). Has been playing really well in preseason games too. He also bring in good experiance, pace and leadership.

Also hard to leave out the Captian! Although I'm unaware of his fitness. Only played one preseason game and got hurt. Does he need another Praccy game? If fit play him IMO. OBree is one of our few clearance players. Burns would add to this.

So IMO.

Out: Ruzza In: Johno
Out: Clarke In: Burns (If ready to go)

Just think Clarke may need a game or 4 in the twos to get his form and feel for the game back . Just seemed a little lost to me. Not that he had a shocker. Just needs to get that awareness back. He did do some real nice things under pressure too.

Its a tough one. But a good problem to have

themonk · Post by **themonk** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:57 pm

Zakal wrote:
cfc2009-10-11-12 wrote:I still dont think we will replace him with another tall against the Lions, we will go for pace. Burns & possibly Ben Johnson in. Reid will have his shot against the Tigers.

Reid has pace. But I am tempted to just bring Burns in for Ruz and rotate Burnsy into the forward line except for the Centre Bounces.

Are we all so happy with Egans dsiplay last week? MM wil probably give Egan more time however I'd prefer to have Burns & Johnno in the side.

As for Reid, a run against a young Lions defence is not such a bad thing.

kickit2me · Post by **kickit2me** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:04 pm

To drop Egan after an impressive start to the season would kill any confidence that he's regained.

Post by **RudeBoy** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:11 pm

I'm leaning towards the idea that there will only be the one (forced) change. In my book, Egan and Rhyce both had good games and would be very unlucky to get dropped and Clarke is a class act, who will surely bounce back this week.

Out: Rusling (inj)
In: Burns

It would mean playing just 2 marking forwards in Pebbles and Travis, but as Egan, Josh, Pendles, Maxwell and Thomas can all float down there at times, we should have enough forward options. Reid will no doubt get his chance some time soon. Johnno may have to work his way from the reserves back into this team. This is the mark of a genuine Premiership contender, when players of this ilk are no longer guaranteed spots in the team.

kickit2me · Post by **kickit2me** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:38 pm

Do we really want Burns' first game back to be at a hot and humid Gabba?

Mich@el · Post by **Mich@el** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:48 pm

Everyone's given interesting and well thought out views on who the ins and outs will be. It's a tough choice. I predict the following:

Sean Rusling OUT
Ben Johnson IN

(If Reid comes in I'll also be happy from a Super Coach point of view! Sheedy's team will be in a lot of trouble)

collingwood_till_i_die · Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:10 pm

In: Johnson, Burns, Bryan
Out: Rusling, Clarke Egan

Bryan and Wood should carve up in the ruck with fraser playing forward and dominating, fraser played in his correct position will dominate, he is just not a ruckman, but he is a GREAT FOOTBALLER.

Fire Up · Post by **Fire Up** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:12 pm

will, the pies wont play 3 ruckman!

burns in

rus out

have rocca chf or ff and cloke the other target

ANNODAM · Post by **ANNODAM** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:46 pm

Burns should play this week, but what about players like Holland & Lonie?

Are they gone or what?

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:48 pm

Yeah. As far as I know they are.

jeff corfe · Post by **jeff corfe** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:51 pm

We could play Granny Davis at Full Foward and still beat the over-rated bears.
Go Pies

pies417 · Post by **pies417** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:22 pm

-magpies are 2 good- wrote:will, the pies wont play 3 ruckman!

burns in

rus out

have rocca chf or ff and cloke the other target

Why wouldn't the pies play three Ruckman and that is only if you think we are playing josh as a ruckman. I think it is agood idea i mentioned it earlier and got no respones.

But I think it is the way to go up in the heat.

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