Post match v Dogs....all comments here thanks

[eddiesmith]

someone said that a lady got knocked out in the cheersquad how did that happen hope she is ok

If she did and it happened when I think it did then Magpie Dan was ejected at that point, hmmm, idiot tried to start a fight with the whole cheersquad whilst going out, was great to see the Drunks up the back giving him hell

On the game, only way to desribe it is

Clokeless Collingwood gets thrashed by midget Dogs

Oh and some good news for most of the morons out there, you may never see a Cloke play for us again, which will make some happy even if all 3 Boys would have done better than half the team who played today

I didnt give us a hope at 2:00 when the only change was Rusling in for Wakes, didnt exploit the height advantage which meant their runners had a field day because no one was tall enough to take marks around the CHF line and of course our rucks, **** were they pathetic, the backs were under pressure all day and didnt hold up, the game was lost at the selection table

[Joel]

Bad, very bad performance. But, it's not time to pull the team apart. We still have a long way to go, but we had some good signs this year.

[ktszyu1]

im not going to be too harsh.. but Maxwell is absolute shite and Clement is overrated, beaten by a terrible player...

Well done Presti, Obree and Johnno.. Hold ya heads high..

I thought Clement did well. As you said, Presti, Obree and Johnno were good. Thomas was good. Tarks was OKish.. Heath and Bucks tried their guts out. I dunno.. im too drunk and depressed to care.

[artiemac]

Well at half time the writing seemed on the board.
I am in Kuwait, and was listening via 3AW, but even with that impediment, it seemed clear the Doggies had settled and were on top.
I had a presentation to give then, and did not get a score until 3/4 time...OMG.
Without attibuting blame, it would seem too many not up to finals pressure and the Doggies just wanted the win more. My sources at the ground say though, that there were some "soft" performers today; no manning up and just over-run.

Predicatble I reckon because when I was in Aus last month, Collingwood was anything but impressive.

Back to the drawing board. To lose is no shame, but to lose by that margin would suggest we have a lot of thinking to do.

Good luck to the Doggies; it's hard not to love their diligence against adversity. I'll be barracking for them now.

Question: Who was our biggest disappointment? Let me know OK?
~Artie in Kuwait

[piedys]

Artie - stay in Kuwait pal - it's gonna be a safer place than Lexus centre for the forseeable future....

Dyso

[artiemac]

Lol, safer in Middle East than Lexus centre huh......oh dear. And no Eddie next year either! Question is will Mick go now too?

[piedys]

Bahhh. What a load of hysterical, emotional, illogical cry-baby nonsense in this thread. Blaming the forward line for today's defeat is so ridiculous that the twisted logic of it wouldn't even occur to the damaged brain of a St Kilda supporter. How often did we even get the ball into the forward line?

Where we lost it was in the centre of the ground. First, foremost, and all the way. Face it Nicksters, the old midfield runners like Brodie, Licca, Burns and Bucks just haven't got what it takes to survive in the modern game, not as #1 starting midfielders. Add in our complete inability to get a ruckman who can actually ruck onto the park, and the disaster is complete.

Of course the forwards didn't do a lot; of course the backs got smashed. No forward line on the planet could kick a winning score with the ball fed to them, if at all, as badly as that. And no defense in the comp could survive either.

OK, I can understand the pain and anger, but for the love of Mike, make it reasoned and constructive pain and anger.

Spot on pal, but this is the same merry-go-round we've been riding since the 2003 GF so put on your belt and hold on!!!

Dyso

[swooper]

Pretty crap overall today. Was a very long day after 1/4 time, was almost unbearable to watch at times. Feel very deflated about it all, hard to find positives right now. Thought Tarkyn did alright today...

[piedys]

Funny... It just occured to me than todays' game was a carbon-copy of rnd.1 2005 at the MCG. Same shit - different day!

Dyso

[Mossi]

Pretty crap overall today. Was a very long day after 1/4 time, was almost unbearable to watch at times. Feel very deflated about it all, hard to find positives right now. Thought Tarkyn did alright today...

You think it's a long day Swopper just spare a thought for London Dave and myself it's only 11 in the morning and we have to get through another 12 hours of september the 10th!

[1eyedpie]

Great to see the ever-reliable Rocca and Tarrant stand up when it counted.

We just don't kick goals when we need to kick goals. How many times to do you see either of them miss a shot and then the ball go straight down the other end and the opposition score from the same situation.

Those two up forward simply are not an option, sorry.

Yea the 3rd qtr of 2002 GF comes to mind. Should have traded him then would have got a real good player but has lost his value I would think.


Probabably out of the finals for the better though, I had a dream we made it to the GF playing the swans only to go down by 10 points. Then we backed another GF berth in 2007 only to be smashed by the Swans by 55points.

[piedys]

The Swans CAN'T smash us! Neither can the Weasels! But other teams don't seem to find this a hard exercise...
Fair dinks, i just DON'T GET footy sometimes...

[melissa]

A terrible effort, really really terrible. But I think we need to distinguish between who had a terrible game and who had a terrible year.

The way I saw it was two players in particular who have had fantastic seasons but had very little impact. They were Swan and Didak. Because they have had great seasons no one on this board will rip into them and instead choose the usual scapegoats, namely Lockyer, Lonie, O'bree (who I might add was the main reason we started well), Tarrant and Rocca.

My other gripe is we were absolutely killed at the centre bounces, stoppages and any 50-50 contest. Once the doggies got their hands on the ball, they just ran with it in waves, whereas we managed somehow to fumble it and then either turn it over or they were able to force a ball up.

One comment by Chris Grant at the end of the game got me thinking and that was their leadership group was trying to make their new recruits into men. Perhaps everyone down at Lexus land is getting a little too comfortable and failing to put in the necessary hard work, I suppose we will never know the answer to that question.

very good post, as i've noticed a few people in here target some players more than others. Particularly the players who tend to be scapegoats regardless of how they've played during the year. I'm talking about Lonie, O'Bree, Maxwell, Egan. Okay the first two didn't play well but O'Bree was the main reason we were on top in the first and everyone knows lonie is neither a tagger or a defender. Okay, he's had a few good games on guys like Brad Green and Brad Johnson but he does his best work on a wing and MM steadfastly refuses to play him there. So go trade him, Mick, and watch a better coach make better use of his talents. I'd back him over fifty metres any day over Tarrant. In fact, I'd back in in front of goal before Tarrant. As for his game, don't get me started. two goals when the pressure was off... big friggin deal. Rocca was woeful and needs to hit the gym and stay away from pasta. Thomas showed some spark, as did Ben Johnson but it was all too little too late. Egan was played totally out of position but that is MM's thing, so i'm not going to go into what i think about that. Just hope the right people get the chop and not players that might kill us when they get traded elsewhere.
I just hope the boys have more hunger next year as it might be Bucks, Burns, and Wake's last seasons.

[Ah Tibor]

It's always a bad sign when players are targeted before a match. Just like Hunter on O'Loughin last night, it isn't tough, it is a sign of weakness. If you are better than them, you don't need to resort to manhandling and false intimidation - you just win the footy, shut up, then do it again.

Gutless effort from Holland, that was the only time I saw him in the first three quarters, and unsurprising he cheated in the last quarter to be ahead of the play to snag two. Disgrace to the jumper. If he wants to be anything more than a D grade celebrity, he needs to be more likeable, disgusting effort today. Did he ever focus on the ball? Smashed. And the bloke he passed the ball (which would have been much more tougher and inspiring) to hit was one of their best. Not surprising.

Ryan Lonie (also) on Montgomery was another one. Anyone can be tough off the ball, when the action happens, being over one metre behind your opponent and smacking your fist/air doesn't make you any tougher.

The way Morris played Didak is an example of how to play matchwinners. No niggle, no wrestling, just focus on the contest. Oh, and Daniel Cross is a star.

No real winners out there, a couple of the midfielders probably broke even, but not much else. But psychologically, we were very bad. Or were the dogs just too good? Probably a bit of both.

Still, remarkable improvement from last year. But, when you are there, you want so much more!

[commonwombat]

sounds like yr manic depression is worsening Dyso, mind you with good cause.

will the powers that be have the brains or the intestinal fortitude to make the hard decisions ?? like many here, one hopes so but would not put money on it.

we are now well into the area of diminishing returns with many of our older (and most distinguished) players. with some i see the best option as being encouraged to retire. i rate the likes of wakes and burnsy in this category. they have given wonderful service to CFC and should go out with honour. bux may have another season (perhaps) but as a bit part player rather than the engine room.

licca isnt as old as these guys but is in the same category in that we have seen his best. sacrilege as it may be to some but i have never really rated him that highly but do honour him as someone who has drained the absolute max out of what ability was given to him. sadly, i think we have seen the best of him and injuries and his lack of compensating pace or skills see him as just another plodder.

am really only looking at rhe midfield here which, with ruck, remains a gaping sore and the difference from us being the 5-8 side we are and a legit premiership hope. the likes of swan and heater and other MAY develop into first rate midfielders but they arent there now. what we have are one pace toilers, many of whom possess mediocre skills. what we have at the moment ain't gunna get us there.