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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
I think the problem might be who’s top dog? Elliot, Hill, Schulz, Checkers? I’d like to see one of them put their hand up, say I’m on today fellas, and demand space in the forward line to lead etc. This year they regularly chipped it around despite marking it in the forward 50 — go back, take your shot at goal. I don’t want selfishness, but I don’t want them to be too unselfish either. Hill was the biggest culprit being too unselfish this year though.
I didn’t get to training much this year, is Schulz clicking with the other players? I hope it’s not an issue like with Grundy where he just wasn’t clicking with the mids and doing his own thing
Put your hand up son and say your Le top dog today and kick a bag.
I didn’t get to training much this year, is Schulz clicking with the other players? I hope it’s not an issue like with Grundy where he just wasn’t clicking with the mids and doing his own thing
Put your hand up son and say your Le top dog today and kick a bag.
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
Lochie will be much better next season, with a year under his belt. Thats my take.
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
So it's a case of watching who is drafted @ #10 and comparing games / accolades etc with whatever Schultz achieves during his time at Collingwood. Could be a fun exercise...
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
We would never do that surely, it would get boring after 80 years or so
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
^ You might only have to wait 4 or 5 years - Sydney took Blakey at 10 in 2019 and GWS took Tom Green with that pick in 2018. Of course, pick 10 is one of those “could be anything” mid-range picks - our worst effort at 10 was Nathan Freeman in 2013 (but we also took Chris Egan at 10 in the prior decade). That said, Sheed went at 11 and Patrick Cripps at 12 that year, so there’s probably value around 10, if you know what you are doing. Adelaide, eg, plucked Phil Davis and Dangerfield in successive drafts at 10.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter - at the end of the 2023 season, Collingwood didn’t place value on what someone might become by 2029 - they were recruiting to top up for a crack at back to back flags. They made the Schultz call and there’s not much merit revisiting it - we would all have made the call to top up on best available 25-28 year old talent at that time, in those circumstances. The same approach worked wonders in 2022.
I think it’s a pity they moved Ginnivan on but that’s a whole separate question - and given the fine collection of potatoes we have sprouting in the VFL, there was never a need to do that to bring Schultz into the list.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter - at the end of the 2023 season, Collingwood didn’t place value on what someone might become by 2029 - they were recruiting to top up for a crack at back to back flags. They made the Schultz call and there’s not much merit revisiting it - we would all have made the call to top up on best available 25-28 year old talent at that time, in those circumstances. The same approach worked wonders in 2022.
I think it’s a pity they moved Ginnivan on but that’s a whole separate question - and given the fine collection of potatoes we have sprouting in the VFL, there was never a need to do that to bring Schultz into the list.
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
@Pies4shaw While it's only part of the KPIs as to the value a player will bring to the team, if Schultz kicks more than Ginnivan next year, one of us will have to change their signature for 2026 to "I was wrong on Schultz"
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
If Stringer lands at the Pies, there will be a competition for who's the most hated player in Black and White.
Shultz does the job the Coaches want not what Supporters want.
Shultz does the job the Coaches want not what Supporters want.
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
Stringer aint coming, Eddie made this VERY plain on Footy Classified.
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
I've always thought Ginnivan was sunk at Collingwood before recruiting Schultz was even thought of. He wasn't getting games before that and that was because Bobby Hill had taken his place and proved far superior in that role. Between that and his poor attitude, Ginnivan was on borrowed time. Given that, comparisons between Ginnivan and Schultz arent that valid.
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
Exactly. Opinions differ but in my book opinions from the club count far more than those here. I also have a feeling that after the initial settling in period and a full pre-season, Shultz will have a much better season.
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
It’s definitely a case of Ginnivan was out the door so we started looking at ready made replacements. Surely no one thinks we got rid of Ginnivan to recruit Schultz?Gerry Cooper wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:17 am I've always thought Ginnivan was sunk at Collingwood before recruiting Schultz was even thought of. He wasn't getting games before that and that was because Bobby Hill had taken his place and proved far superior in that role. Between that and his poor attitude, Ginnivan was on borrowed time. Given that, comparisons between Ginnivan and Schultz arent that valid.
But in terms of goals per game this year, Schultz sits above Ginni, so not the massive failure made out by his detractors. Plus I don’t think Schultz will shit himself in a final like Ginni did every time he got tackled v Port…
Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
Really, who is top of Collingwood's private draft board after pick 9.
Or if we wanna be mean, who ends up the best player who was still available at 10. Of course, that's hindsight...
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
What you fail to appreciate is that there are people at the club who are saying we made a horrible mistake getting Schultz last year when we could have got him for nothing this year, but they will keep their opinions in house and the supporters will be none the wiser.lazzadesilva wrote: ↑Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:40 pmExactly. Opinions differ but in my book opinions from the club count far more than those here. I also have a feeling that after the initial settling in period and a full pre-season, Shultz will have a much better season.
Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
Ifs and buts…. Whats done is done. Whether you’re inside the club or not.
It's never as good/nor bad as it seems...
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Re: #8 Lachie Schultz
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but most people would be taking the ready made player for a shot at back to back to fill a gap rather than wait a year.