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Has anyone noticed that the same people who said Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation are the people telling us what is going on in the Ukraine?

How can we believe anything they say?
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The right-wing newspaper that broke the Hunter Biden laptop story, The New York Post, is also pushing a strongly anti-Putin editorial line: https://nypost.com/tag/ukraine/

Meanwhile, the left-wing Jacobin magazine, which ran articles criticising the suppression of the Hunter Biden story (see: https://jacobinmag.com/2020/10/facebook ... p-big-tech), has also condemned the invasion.

I suppose that isn't very convenient for whatever point it is you're trying to make. The fact is that there's a wide range of English-language and international coverage of this war that neither fits your "same people" straw-man nor offers support to your one-sided portrayal of the conflict. So the question is, whose reporting are you trusting on this, and what corn flakes packet did they get their journalism credentials from?
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^If a tree falls in a forest in Europe and an Australian watching American cable doesn't hear it....
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Speaking of American cable, am I the only one who suspects that Tucker Carlson may be screening on loop at AJ's house? Interesting to see what talking points crop up …
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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good on you. hmm. let me know how it goes!!
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This is as pathetic as it is disgraceful:
The Times’s Visual Investigations team analyzed dozens of battlefield radio transmissions between Russian forces during an initial invasion of the town of Makariv, outside Kyiv. They reveal an army struggling with logistical problems and communication failures.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/eur ... kariv.html
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David wrote:Speaking of American cable, am I the only one who suspects that Tucker Carlson may be screening on loop at AJ's house? Interesting to see what talking points crop up …
Perhaps AJ is Fox News?
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Nutter wantonly killing people, wrecking things and creating millions of refugees goes on bizarre rant about the real problem, Western cancel culture.
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kill for collingwood!
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^ Well, not the dead ones.
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pietillidie wrote:Nutter wantonly killing people, wrecking things and creating millions of refugees goes on bizarre rant about the real problem, Western cancel culture.
JK Rowling's response on Twiiter was perfect.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Pies4shaw wrote:^ Well, not the dead ones.
Most of them, too.
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I thought this was a good piece. Not an easy process, which is why transition traditionally follows a country being levelled by defeat. We need Russia to somehow transition without carnage:
This is the drama of my homeland: a small number of my compatriots are ready for life in a democratic society, but the overwhelming majority still bow before power and accept this patrimonial way of life.

If, over the course of generations, everyone who thinks for themselves is wiped out, the only qualities that will prevail will be silence and satisfaction with the authorities. But can you blame these people if that was their only survival strategy? Where do those who don’t remain silent end up today? They go to jail. Or they need to emigrate before it’s too late.
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