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^ I’m not sure if you’re view was informed by Michael Bachalard of the Age but he said the same thing more or less yesterday.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 57aze.html

More to the point his article notes a few very important things which includes: ( I’ve added other points)

1. A defamation action will not find the truth of the matter (whereas an independent inquiry is much more likely to)
2. The Attorney General (AG) that is the top legal officer has wanted to make changes to Australia’s defamation laws as they are (almost universally) seen as failing to protect journalists and others bringing to light issues which are in the public interest
3. Christian Porter the alleged rapist has wanted to make changes to the archaic defamation laws
4. The AG’s dep’t has been tardy
5. The AG as we know is the alleged rapist Christian Porter
6. There is no relationship between what was aired on Four Corners etc but to a specific on line I think article about the issue at hand.
7. Porter the alleged rapist might be dead man walking but he’ll be a richer dead man walking
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[quote="watt price tully"]^ I’m not sure if you’re view was informed by Michael Bachalard of the Age but he said the same thing more or less yesterday.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 57aze.html

More to the point his article notes a few very important things which includes: ( I’ve added other points)

1. A defamation action will not find the truth of the matter (whereas an independent inquiry is much more likely to)
2. The Attorney General (AG) that is the top legal officer has wanted to make changes to Australia’s defamation laws as they are (almost universally) seen as failing to protect journalists and others bringing to light issues which are in the public interest
3. Christian Porter the alleged rapist has wanted to make changes to the archaic defamation laws
4. The AG’s dep’t has been tardy
5. The AG as we know is the alleged rapist Christian Porter
6. There is no relationship between what was aired on Four Corners etc but to a specific on line I think article about the issue at hand.
7. Porter the alleged rapist might be dead man walking but he’ll be a richer dead man walking
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I don't think anyone read the ABCs reporting on the matter and thought it was fair and balanced, it was very clearly attempting to paint a picture that this occurred and the person was guilty.
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I saw the start of Media Watch a few weeks ago when the host referred to a successful complaint that had been made to the ACMA about an ABC story. I can't recall what the story was about, but when the host commenced by saying that ACMA was wrong because the reporter was a very experienced ABC reporter, I had to turn it off.

If that is an example of the ABC's standards they are in a lot of trouble.
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^ I posted a link to the report here when it was first released. I re-read it yesterday. As I said here, after re-reading it, "the essence of the initial ABC reportage appears to be self-evidently true". I said that because the truth of its content was affirmed, in substance, by Porter.

It didn't strike me as a "hatchet job", at the time - and it still doesn't. It was plainly an attempt by an investigative reporter to get certain allegations investigated.

By all means, go back and identify the specific passages that you think are untrue, incorrect, unfair or unbalanced.
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Can you also post the link to the deceased's letter?
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Snap.

The argument is that what the ABC reported was true as in it was all detail contained in the letter.

The argument is that they also had access to other information in the dossier which conflicted.

Allegedly, they deliberately chose to report the detail that painted Porter in the worst light and deliberately omitted that which didn't.

If their argument is that they were just trying to report what the allegations were without trying to influence the reader/viewer either way, they may have a chance but I wouldn't put money on them.
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eddiesmith wrote:I don't think anyone read the ABCs reporting on the matter and thought it was fair and balanced, it was very clearly attempting to paint a picture that this occurred and the person was guilty.
Only an idiot would arrive at that conclusion, oh wait. Carry on.
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I love all the instant defamation experts.
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[quote="5 from the wing on debut"][quote="watt price tully"]^ I’m not sure if you’re view was informed by Michael Bachalard of the Age but he said the same thing more or less yesterday.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 57aze.html

More to the point his article notes a few very important things which includes: ( I’ve added other points)

1. A defamation action will not find the truth of the matter (whereas an independent inquiry is much more likely to)
2. The Attorney General (AG) that is the top legal officer has wanted to make changes to Australia’s defamation laws as they are (almost universally) seen as failing to protect journalists and others bringing to light issues which are in the public interest
3. Christian Porter the alleged rapist has wanted to make changes to the archaic defamation laws
4. The AG’s dep’t has been tardy
5. The AG as we know is the alleged rapist Christian Porter
6. There is no relationship between what was aired on Four Corners etc but to a specific on line I think article about the issue at hand.
7. Porter the alleged rapist might be dead man walking but he’ll be a richer dead man walking
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Pies4shaw wrote:I love all the instant defamation experts.
I resemble that remark
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5 from the wing on debut wrote:I saw the start of Media Watch a few weeks ago when the host referred to a successful complaint that had been made to the ACMA about an ABC story. I can't recall what the story was about, but when the host commenced by saying that ACMA was wrong because the reporter was a very experienced ABC reporter, I had to turn it off.

If that is an example of the ABC's standards they are in a lot of trouble.
I watch Paul Barry every week and frankly I don't believe your recollection of Paul Barry. He gets stuck into the ABC as well, don't you worry about that. It's just that Sky News, Commercial TV, Commercial Radio and the Murdoch press provide so much to crtiicise - they just keep on giving.
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