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Glad to see you, mr Richardson said while Whelan Browne mentioned she was seeing a therapist there was no evidence his client was doing the same .
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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stui magpie wrote:...
Being publicly accused of harassment, you're screwed
Not necessarily, even if you're likely guilty, as long as you're rich and powerful.
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It's good to meet someone who is accused of harassment you're screwed[quote]
Not if you're rich and powerful.
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Well, the very topic is the stuff of the musty halls of Western theology and philosophy, so this is no surprise. Self-awaredness was never a strong suit of those so educated.

The desperate need to uphold the rational self in the face of obvious limitations (so Descarte's cogito ergo sum), including a gendered world experience, is why a critical social science was needed. When the latter collapses into nihilism, perhaps something saner will emerge for a bit (so the Hegelian dialectic).
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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^You wouldn't doubt it. Ironically, stability can signify an oppression so pervasive it is (virtually) perfectly normalised (Chomsky always says this about slavery).

It's not easy to strike the balance between ease and dis-ease whereby we can have a strong sense of self-efficacy, yet observe our own horrors without collapsing into a mournful heap. Some would say the ability to walk this fine line is what defines psychological maturity.
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How much more could it be?
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I think there's often been a distinction between an industry "open secret" and something that's actually public knowledge. Weinstein's litany of abuses, which were apparently whispered about for years in industry corridors and Hollywood cocktail parties, were more or less hidden from the general public. Same goes for child abuse in the Catholic Church, etc.: everyone knew, and yet nobody knew. There was, in the midst of all of the rumours and gossip, a clear culture of silence.

I suspect that the real enabling lies in that paradox: enough people know for systemic abuse to be enabled and covered up, but not enough people know for the offending to be exposed and for the offender/s to face justice. That kind of process couldn't happen in a more transparent and accountable regime, almost by definition. Denial is a powerful impulse, but even it crumbles in broad daylight; and, indeed, what we're seeing now in the cases of Hollywood, the Catholic Church and so on is a result of that broad daylight in action.
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A news aside:

"The letter surfaced in 2008. ... And it rocketed into the universe of big-money auctions, selling for $US404,000 ($549,000) in London.

The buyer was not identified. The Guardian said that ... Richard Dawkins ... was one of the bidders who lost out.

Now the letter is on the market again. It will go on the block at Christie's on Tuesday, New York time. Christie's set a pre sale estimate of $US1 million to $US1.5 million."


Some people have too much money...
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He will be interested I am sure.
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