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roar wrote:TBH, I don't think there is a way to unite the MAGA nutters with the Democrat crowd. Well, nothing short of a major war but even then I'm not sure it would work. Major natural disaster, maybe.
The POTUS was right on the money when it comes to the MAGA nutters (I know it’s a tautology). I don’t think however he went far enough. The POTUS needs to prohibit first cousins from marrying and having children. Look at the consequences in MAGA:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... egative48/
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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"The United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea,” Harris said. “It is an alliance that is strong and enduring.”

That's what happens when you spend more time being woke than understanding what's actually happening in the world.
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Creepy Joe doing what he does best....being creepy
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Not deliberately creepy, the old boys cheese is just barely clinging to his cracker. Surely cannot get a second term.

And speaking of second terms, if the Republicans put Trump up again........

C'mon people, surely there has to be some decent alternatives?
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stui magpie wrote:Not deliberately creepy, the old boys cheese is just barely clinging to his cracker. Surely cannot get a second term.

And speaking of second terms, if the Republicans put Trump up again........

C'mon people, surely there has to be some decent alternatives?
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DeSantis the obvious standout for the GOP if it's not Trump.

Agree on Newsom. Don't like his politics but I can see him being far more popular than Harris even if Biden doesn't run for a second term.
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I don't think DeSantis can win. He might well get the nomination if Trump doesn't run, but I think he lacks anything in the way of broad appeal. The Martha's Vineyard stunt was a great example of someone playing to the base but successfully alienating most other people (including, one suspects, a lot of non-partisan observers).

As the Katherine Deves preselection here showed, a politics of spite and cruelty has inherent limits and needs something broader to be attached to. With Trump it was a promise to restore American manufacturing, an unabashed nationalism and the inherent benefits of being seen as an outsider who isn't playing the same game as everyone else (also, being a TV celebrity didn't hurt). DeSantis is starting from a much bigger handicap. I'm sure the Democrats will do their best to make Republicans' job easier, but if all the Republicans are offering eight years on from 2016 is another serve of "owning the libs", I think they're going to get massacred.
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I admire your youthful optimism but from the cynical, old man perspective, we're in for Trump II and all the madness that follows.
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Oh, I have no doubt Trump can win again if he runs! Just have less faith in his acolytes.
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Biden is rapidly becoming a caricature, they can't let him run for a second term, and unfortunately his abject lack of meaningful leadership and seemingly increasing dementia does nothing to encourage people to vote Democrat.

The US have a minimum age for becoming POTUS, they should consider a maximum age too. Shades of Ronnie Raygun.
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MIDTERMS PREVIEW

House of Representatives:

The House of Representatives consists of 435 seats, with 218 seats required to form a majority.

In this election cycle, all 435 seats in the House of Representatives are up for grabs. Ordinarily, the House of Representatives elections are held every two years in the US and all seats are up for election.

As it stands, the Democrats currently have 220 seats in their disposal, while the Republicans have 212 seats. Therefore, this means the Republicans require flipping 6 seats currently held by the Democrats in order to win back control of the House.

Most mainstream polls are predicting that the Republicans will reclaim the House, but it's a matter of how big the margin will be.

Traditionally, the party that is in power in the executive branch of government (currently the Democrats with Joe Biden as President) often loses control of the House. This happened to the Democrats in 2008 after Obama won the Presidential election, but they lost the House to the Republicans in 2010. This also happened to the Republicans in 2018 after Trump won the Presidential election two years earlier.

There's a lot of evenly contested seats up for grabs, so I won't bother posting the whole list here.

Senate:

The Senate has 100 seats, which consists of 2 seats for each state so every state has equal representation regardless of its population numbers. However, usually only 33 or 34 seats of seats are up for grabs in each Senate election which is ordinarily held every two years.

As it stands, the Democrats hold 48 seats with two independents (which includes Bernie Sanders), the Republicans hold 50 seats making up the 100 seats in the Senate. The independents caucus with the Senate Democrats which takes their power up to 50 seats.

In this election cycle, the Democrats are required to defend 14 Senate seats (including the two Independents), while the Republicans need to defend 21 seats.

Most pundits are 50/50 as to who takes control of the Senate after these elections.

Key Seats:
- Arizona (currently held by Democrats)
- Colorado (currently held by Democrats)
- Florida (currently held by Republicans)
- Georgia (currently held by Democrats)
- Nevada (currently held by Democrats)
- New Jersey (currently held by Democrats)
- New Hampshire (currently held by Democrats)
- Pennsylvania (currently held by Republicans)
- Washington (currently held by Democrats)
- Wisconsin (currently held by Republicans)

I'm predicting the Republicans will flip Georgia and Nevada, and the others will remain in the same party's hands.

Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are seen to be the most evenly contested states.

Governor:

For those who might not know, think of the Governors as almost being the equivalent to the Premiers in each state in Australia.

Key races:
- Arizona = Kari Lake (R) vs Katie Hobbs (D)
- Florida = Ron DeSantis (R) vs Charlie Crist (D)
- Kansas = Laura Kelly (D) vs Derek Schmidt (R)
- Maryland = Dan Cox (R) vs Wes Moore (D)
- Massachusetts = Geoff Diehl (R) vs Maura Healey (D)
- Michigan = Gretchen Whitmer (D) vs Tudor Dixon (R)
- Minnesota = Tim Walz (D) vs Scott Jensen (R)
- Nevada = Steve Sisolak (D) vs Joe Lombardo (R)
- New Mexico = Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) vs Mark Ronchetti (R)
- New York = Kathy Hochul (D) vs Lee Zeldin (R)
- Oklahoma = Kevin Stitt (R) vs Joy Hofmeister (D)
- Oregon = Tina Kotek (D) vs Christine Drazan (R)
- Wisconsin = Tony Evers (D) vs Tim Michels (R)

The colour shaded indicates which party is the incumbent in each state.

I think the Republicans will gain Kansas, Nevada and Wisconsin. The Democrats will win in Maryland and Massachusetts.
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