Nick's Collingwood Bulletin Board

Cam wrote:Watch our handballing in the last game against the Hawks and you will see our foundation is there.

Piesnchess wrote:Personally, I thought the GF was the ugliest GF I have ever seen, just one big tackle and scragg fest, the dogs, scraggers, are very well named. The dogs play with manic pressure and manic frenzy, frenetic, and Beveridge has learnt from his tutor at the Hawks, Clarko, how to push the boundaries and bend the rules as far as a team can go, he has taken the hawks unsociable footy to a whole new level of unsocialbility, hes upped the ante. Despite all their head high tackles and dragging player down by legs etc, they get a dream run from the umpires too, 17-4 free kicks at one stage late in the game, and they lead the comp in frees for. I don't begrudge them the flag, but it was still a very ugly and scraggng game, I love GFs like the 2010 draw, fast and open play, long kicking, skills, high marks, deft passing.
But now the dogs have set the pace, it looks as if all other sides must now adopt that scragging manic game to get to their level, similar to how teams adopted the Eade and Roos Flood thing, some years ago.
The dogs have set the benchmark, and I guess we must follow, I can see season 2017 being one long scragg frest of footy, but that's how it must be I guess.

Magpietothemax wrote:

Cam wrote:Watch our handballing in the last game against the Hawks and you will see our foundation is there.

Thanks, will look at this game again.

Mugwump wrote:

Piesnchess wrote:Personally, I thought the GF was the ugliest GF I have ever seen, just one big tackle and scragg fest, the dogs, scraggers, are very well named. The dogs play with manic pressure and manic frenzy, frenetic, and Beveridge has learnt from his tutor at the Hawks, Clarko, how to push the boundaries and bend the rules as far as a team can go, he has taken the hawks unsociable footy to a whole new level of unsocialbility, hes upped the ante. Despite all their head high tackles and dragging player down by legs etc, they get a dream run from the umpires too, 17-4 free kicks at one stage late in the game, and they lead the comp in frees for. I don't begrudge them the flag, but it was still a very ugly and scraggng game, I love GFs like the 2010 draw, fast and open play, long kicking, skills, high marks, deft passing.
But now the dogs have set the pace, it looks as if all other sides must now adopt that scragging manic game to get to their level, similar to how teams adopted the Eade and Roos Flood thing, some years ago.
The dogs have set the benchmark, and I guess we must follow, I can see season 2017 being one long scragg frest of footy, but that's how it must be I guess.

This. My main takeaway is that the game is now like rugby, and in urgent need of reform. It is ugly, congested, and mostly played at ground level rather than in the open and in the air as it was designed to be. The dogs mastered this as they have few big men and a host of ground-ball scrappers. i hope the league will experiment with fewer players on the field, rigorous enforcement against interference in marking contests, and a reduction in the rewards for tackling as opposed to getting the ball. I think we will be good in 2017 but it'll be Ina game that is becoming less and less attractive to watch.

doriswilgus wrote:

Mugwump wrote:

Piesnchess wrote:Personally, I thought the GF was the ugliest GF I have ever seen, just one big tackle and scragg fest, the dogs, scraggers, are very well named. The dogs play with manic pressure and manic frenzy, frenetic, and Beveridge has learnt from his tutor at the Hawks, Clarko, how to push the boundaries and bend the rules as far as a team can go, he has taken the hawks unsociable footy to a whole new level of unsocialbility, hes upped the ante. Despite all their head high tackles and dragging player down by legs etc, they get a dream run from the umpires too, 17-4 free kicks at one stage late in the game, and they lead the comp in frees for. I don't begrudge them the flag, but it was still a very ugly and scraggng game, I love GFs like the 2010 draw, fast and open play, long kicking, skills, high marks, deft passing.
But now the dogs have set the pace, it looks as if all other sides must now adopt that scragging manic game to get to their level, similar to how teams adopted the Eade and Roos Flood thing, some years ago.
The dogs have set the benchmark, and I guess we must follow, I can see season 2017 being one long scragg frest of footy, but that's how it must be I guess.

This. My main takeaway is that the game is now like rugby, and in urgent need of reform. It is ugly, congested, and mostly played at ground level rather than in the open and in the air as it was designed to be. The dogs mastered this as they have few big men and a host of ground-ball scrappers. i hope the league will experiment with fewer players on the field, rigorous enforcement against interference in marking contests, and a reduction in the rewards for tackling as opposed to getting the ball. I think we will be good in 2017 but it'll be Ina game that is becoming less and less attractive to watch.

I'm glad someone else mentioned this,because I thought it was an incredibly ugly game to watch as well.It was just an endless succession of rolling mauls and scrums,not the game I grew up with and loved.The only thing that saved the game was the closeness of the scores and fairytale of the bulldogs winning after so many years.But while people keep watching the game in their millions on tv,i guess the A.F.L won't do anything about it,and will continue to let the game deteriorate as a spectacle.

ANNODAM wrote:The NRL pre-game entertainment shits all over the AFL one.

Big T wrote:Throwing the ball is encouraged, as is scooping it backwards through your legs.