Disgrace. Google it. He resigns from being premier and leaves politics immediately triggering a by election. Specific enough?watt price tully wrote:You’ll need to define disgrace. Herald sun definition? sky news definition? The Australian definition?stui magpie wrote:^
Bet ya $50 he's gone in disgrace well before the next election.
Make the terms clear and then we can negotiate what the definition of disgrace means. Robodebt? 5 secret ministries?
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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You’ve avoided my question. He may resign and your mates in the Murdoch press will say it’s a disgrace whereas a rational analysis may suggest that other reasons are at play. It’s not as simple as you seem to think it is. I thought Scotty from Marketing was a disgrace well before the secret ministries but you if I recall correctly you thought the mounting examples of ministerial Culpability (unaccountability) were unremarkable.stui magpie wrote:Disgrace. Google it. He resigns from being premier and leaves politics immediately triggering a by election. Specific enough?watt price tully wrote:You’ll need to define disgrace. Herald sun definition? sky news definition? The Australian definition?stui magpie wrote:^
Bet ya $50 he's gone in disgrace well before the next election.
Make the terms clear and then we can negotiate what the definition of disgrace means. Robodebt? 5 secret ministries?
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Lower House update.
Seats (81.1% counted)
Labor = 52
Coalition = 27
Greens = 4
Other = 0
Primary Vote: (81.1% counted)
Labor = 37.1% (-5.8]
Coalition = 34.7% (-0.5)
Greens = 11.3% (+0.6)
Other = 16.9% (+5.7)
Two Party Preferred: (81.1% counted)
Labor = 54.4% (-2.9)
Coalition = 45.6% (+2.9)
Seats gained and lost:
Labor gains Glen Waverley, Ripon and Hastings.
Labor lost Hawthorn, Richmond and Nepean.
Coalition gains Nepean, Shepparton, Morwell, Hawthorn and Mildura.
Coalition lost Glen Waverley, Ripon and Hastings.
Greens gain Richmond.
Greens have no losses.
Independents have no gains.
Independents lost Mildura, Morwell and Shepparton.
Seats in Doubt:
Bass = Labor 50.2 - 49.8 Coalition - (87.3% counted)
Northcote = Labor 50.7 - 49.3 Greens - (84.9% counted)
Pakenham = Coalition 50.0 - 50.0 Labor - (83.8% counted)
Preston = Labor 50.9 - 49.1 Independent - (81.1% counted)
Coalition leads in Pakenham by 6 votes.
Northcote has returned to the "in doubt" category despite the Greens conceding on Thursday.
Seats (81.1% counted)
Labor = 52
Coalition = 27
Greens = 4
Other = 0
Primary Vote: (81.1% counted)
Labor = 37.1% (-5.8]
Coalition = 34.7% (-0.5)
Greens = 11.3% (+0.6)
Other = 16.9% (+5.7)
Two Party Preferred: (81.1% counted)
Labor = 54.4% (-2.9)
Coalition = 45.6% (+2.9)
Seats gained and lost:
Labor gains Glen Waverley, Ripon and Hastings.
Labor lost Hawthorn, Richmond and Nepean.
Coalition gains Nepean, Shepparton, Morwell, Hawthorn and Mildura.
Coalition lost Glen Waverley, Ripon and Hastings.
Greens gain Richmond.
Greens have no losses.
Independents have no gains.
Independents lost Mildura, Morwell and Shepparton.
Seats in Doubt:
Bass = Labor 50.2 - 49.8 Coalition - (87.3% counted)
Northcote = Labor 50.7 - 49.3 Greens - (84.9% counted)
Pakenham = Coalition 50.0 - 50.0 Labor - (83.8% counted)
Preston = Labor 50.9 - 49.1 Independent - (81.1% counted)
Coalition leads in Pakenham by 6 votes.
Northcote has returned to the "in doubt" category despite the Greens conceding on Thursday.
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Just tell me what the steps say in Dan’s holiday house as a source of all things rational and unbiasedstui magpie wrote:Ducking, dodging, weaving,
Put your money where your mouth is.
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How the new Legislative Council (Upper House) may look if results don't change from now.
Labor = 15
Coalition = 13
Legalise Cannabis = 3
Greens = 2
Derryn Hinch's Justice = 1
Liberal Democrats = 1
Animal Justice = 1
Shooters, Fishers and Farmers = 1
Transport Matters = 1
Labour DLP = 1
One Nation = 1
I'm simplifying this, but splitting it along the left-right paradigm, I see it as:
22 on the left (Labor 15, Legalise Cannabis 3, Greens 2, Animal Justice 1, Transport Matters 1); and
18 on the right (Coalition 13, Justice 1, Lib Dems 1, Shooters 1, Labour DLP 1, One Nation 1).
Labor = 15
Coalition = 13
Legalise Cannabis = 3
Greens = 2
Derryn Hinch's Justice = 1
Liberal Democrats = 1
Animal Justice = 1
Shooters, Fishers and Farmers = 1
Transport Matters = 1
Labour DLP = 1
One Nation = 1
I'm simplifying this, but splitting it along the left-right paradigm, I see it as:
22 on the left (Labor 15, Legalise Cannabis 3, Greens 2, Animal Justice 1, Transport Matters 1); and
18 on the right (Coalition 13, Justice 1, Lib Dems 1, Shooters 1, Labour DLP 1, One Nation 1).
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watt price tully wrote:Just tell me what the steps say in Dan’s holiday house as a source of all things rational and unbiasedstui magpie wrote:Ducking, dodging, weaving,
Put your money where your mouth is.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Apparently the results for Northcote and Preston (currently predicted Labor wins, but with close challenges by the Greens and an independent respectively) are due tomorrow, with most or all of the other close lower-house counts to be finalised by Thursday. I believe the LC results are due next week.
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