Post Match. Pies cop a Hawk hiding - all comments

[magpie57]

[quote="rand corp"]Forward line didn't fire a shot

Undermanned, overwhelmed and ultimately destroyed in the back line

Midfield and on ballers were an embarrassment, comprehensively out played, out run, out muscled

A absolute hiding

About the only positive you could even consider mentioning is, that it was surprising we remained so close for such a lengthy period of the game in the middle quarters, particularly with so many players getting well beaten

With no Presti and Wakes as brave as usual but the body looking all but gone, we are a KP defender down and relying on a promising but inexperienced kid to fill the other slot. (Brown has done well but got F#$% all support yesterday and was ultimately another smashed up Buddy scalp.)
Bring in Jack and play the kid.
Harry, Maxy, Goldy are all starting to look merely good, honest triers who need a bit more quality around them. Now the question must be asked: can they all play in the one back line?

With no Rocca we seriously need another tall option forward, but then again, with our delivery into the forward line it hardly matters.
Zero pressure on locking the ball into the forward which kills.
Daisy needs to stop trying to do the 'special', take the first option and get the job done, needs to be given time up the ground and on the ball, sadly out of form at the moment to the point where a week in the two's mightn't hurt.
Maxy and Goldy are not the answer in th forward line.

Cheesy, Rhycey, Roids: when will the hierarchy work out that in the big games -when the pressure is on, when its last man standing- you have fumbled and missed targets in these situations for years and it ain't going to change.

Cook, WTF, I seriously think this kid will get the chop at year's end, write that down, (would need a massive change of form and fortune to save him). How could we bring him in instead of a kid who last week showed a preparedness and ability to at least occasionally put himself inside and get his own ball. Bring the kid Wellingham back in and play him.

Give Cox a run FFS! Can play across half back or across the midfield.

Boy I hope the kid McCarthy has an absolute blinder of a game against Geelong in the ressies, because we are really, really struggling for answers, for skill, for pace, for anything in the mid field.


Demoralizing loss, after last year's heroics the Pies look a long way off a flag at the moment.[/quote]


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As much as it hurts to say it,I have to agree.

[ktszyu1]

Here is a positive:

My man Scott Pendlebury continued his great form:

22 disposals, with 100% effectiveness. 6 of which were contested. He laid 6 tackles and had 3 clearances, with only 76% time on ground.

[dids_04]

Here is a positive:

My man Scott Pendlebury continued his great form:

22 disposals, with 100% effectiveness. 6 of which were contested. He laid 6 tackles and had 3 clearances, with only 76% time on ground.

the only gun midfielder we have. At 19 years of age.

Says alot and one loud message it does say is we will not get near challenging for premierships with such a midfield.

[Adz]

A new coach is going to solve our midfield problems.

The problem is our mids aren't attacking enough.
They lack the speed and class and in turn we doing the chasing all day.

[burnsy17]

We have absolutely no aggression in us. Players dont hate the opposition... they dont want to grind them into the ground at every tackle, FFS, some of them dont even want to tackle.

Hip and shoulders dont hurt. The opposition dont hear footsteps.

We dont intimidate.

We are not angry.

We have some serious problems.

[swooper]

There's not much more I can add here that hasnt already been mentioned. Although I didnt think we would win yesterday, I was keen to see how we would go against quality opposition. I think by 1/4 time I had my anser.

Personally, I think we are having the year 'we have to have'. By that I mean, many people assumed we would take the next step this year after a wonderul end to last season - but as others have mentioned many times over, we have lost experience and leadership (Bucks, Clemo, Licca,).

Geelong had a shocker in 2006 - bounced back with a vengence last year.
Bulldogs had a shocker in 2007 (after a good 2006)- and so far have started very well.

I just think we are still a couple of years away from matching it with the quality sides of the comp. Overall, I continue to be positive about the future of the club and our young players. But I think we should play more of the younger boys, keep developing and experiment if we have to. Let's hope they LEARNT something from yesterday and work on it (physical pressure - anyone????)
I dont know what else to say - it was very disappointing and quite sad to see really

[Joel]

What a dissapointing game. Reality check boys - let's stop playing like millionaires, and start doing the 1 percenters we were reknown for last year. Pathetic performance really.

[Greek Style]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 11,00.html

Hawks make it seven straight
By Adam Cooper
May 03, 2008 HAWTHORN coach Alastair Clarkson expects to have his AFL game plan scrutinised more closely after his potent forwards inflicted a 65-point thrashing on Collingwood at the MCG.

[mel_kay39]

we are a momentum team, and just some poor umpiring decisions snuffed out our momentum swings.

it could of been a very different game, may not of won, but would of been alot closer

we have a handful of out of form players, and the way we play, that hurts us alot!

this week off will do us good

I noticed that! Every time our boys had the ball and looked like they were going to do something decent with it, an ump gave it back to the Dawks! Seriously, some of those iffy umpiring decisions cost us. I'm not making excuses but when Shane O'Bree caught the ball near the boundary and the ump called for a throw in cos he thought it went over I just groaned. I could see it didn't go over from where I was, for f**k sakes!
I don't think we should repeat the South Africa experiment next preseason. Arizona was working for us. Let's do that again.

[Dave The Man]

There were 2 Seperate Rules by the Umps 1 for the Dawks and 1 for Us.

The Umpires were a Disgrace yesterday.

And WTF is Holding the Ball These a\Days

[spikey]

we are a momentum team, and just some poor umpiring decisions snuffed out our momentum swings.

it could of been a very different game, may not of won, but would of been alot closer

we have a handful of out of form players, and the way we play, that hurts us alot!

this week off will do us good

I noticed that! Every time our boys had the ball and looked like they were going to do something decent with it, an ump gave it back to the Dawks! Seriously, some of those iffy umpiring decisions cost us. I'm not making excuses but when Shane O'Bree caught the ball near the boundary and the ump called for a throw in cos he thought it went over I just groaned. I could see it didn't go over from where I was, for f**k sakes!
I don't think we should repeat the South Africa experiment next preseason. Arizona was working for us. Let's do that again.

i re watched the game heard the ump's they were not too bad there were a couple of funny ones there but the free's were there for both sides .

ump's specially no 3 was better this week then he was last week they were horrid last week

[mel_kay39]

Here is a positive:

My man Scott Pendlebury continued his great form:

22 disposals, with 100% effectiveness. 6 of which were contested. He laid 6 tackles and had 3 clearances, with only 76% time on ground.

Sorry about this, but I remember him turning it over on at least two occasions... Must be all the beer i was not drinking. Pendles is lovely, great player, deserved the NAB Rising Star this year and did pick up in the second half on Saturday, but he did have an average game. For him.

[spoljar]

Here is a positive:

My man Scott Pendlebury continued his great form:

22 disposals, with 100% effectiveness. 6 of which were contested. He laid 6 tackles and had 3 clearances, with only 76% time on ground.

Sorry about this, but I remember him turning it over on at least two occasions... Must be all the beer i was not drinking. Pendles is lovely, great player, deserved the NAB Rising Star this year and did pick up in the second half on Saturday, but he did have an average game. For him.

You do realise that Pendles is not eligible for the Rising Star!

[virgomag]

Burnsy17:-

Hip and shoulders dont hurt. The opposition dont hear footsteps.

We dont intimidate.

We are not angry.


Bingo Burnsy !!!!!!!

Win, lose or draw I will get shirty each week about the 'hearing footsteps', couldn't be bothered naming names as there's enough agro about the loss as it is but looking at who's coming and pulling back is totally unacceptable!!

Maybe the players need to look at the 1990 year, our team was far from the best side (skills wise) but our aggression and the fear we put on the opposition took us to the flag and the silver-ware.

[ktszyu1]

Here is a positive:

My man Scott Pendlebury continued his great form:

22 disposals, with 100% effectiveness. 6 of which were contested. He laid 6 tackles and had 3 clearances, with only 76% time on ground.

Sorry about this, but I remember him turning it over on at least two occasions... Must be all the beer i was not drinking. Pendles is lovely, great player, deserved the NAB Rising Star this year and did pick up in the second half on Saturday, but he did have an average game. For him.

I just quoted the stats in the paper. Who didn't have a poor game? He was one of two shining lights, the other being Heath... but neither were outstanding.