Cricket !!

[London Dave]

Is Bernie Williams, centre fielder of the New York Yankees dead?



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[Kristin5]

That's what I was going to post Assassin! Hayden isn't only playing well against the woeful Poms - he has put the score on the board (literally) against classier bowling attacks too, such as the South Africans.

He is a fantastic batsman - great to watch cos he's so powerful and he plays his shots. In fact, the whole Aussie team is great to watch - they play attacking cricket and often score as if it's a one dayer.

I've got my ticket booked to the one dayer on the 15th of December - anyone else going?

"I'm sure people see me as a screaming redhead with a big pair of boobs, but I like to think I've got things to say." Geri Halliwell, former member of the Spice Girls

[JLC]

[Donny]

We had an interesting exchange between CQ and Mrs Tarrant on the relative merits of Michael Slater and Matthew Hayden in the Bored Board. So I dug up some stats for them and share them here.

Tests Inn. N.O. Runs H.S. Ave. 100s 50s Catches
Slats 74 131 7 5312 219 42.83 14 21 33
Haydos 34 58 4 2900 203 53.70 11 10 33

From these figures we can see MH has a significantly better average and a much better conversion rate of 50s to 100s. MH also takes more catches per Test than MS did.

MH averages 85.29 runs per Test.
MS averaged 71.78 runs per Test.

MH scores a century every 3.09 Tests.
MS scored a century every 5.28 Tests.

MH scores a century every 5.27 innings.
MS scored a century every 9.35 1nnings.

Statistics don't always show exactly how good/bad a player is/was but they do make interesting reading.

Donny.

PS. Does anyone know how to type in the figures so they will come up the same way after posting ? As you can see the first lot of stats don't line up with their headings.



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[Donny]

When a batsman strings together a run of centuries, the pundits are prone to use 'Bradmanesque' in their appraisals.

As Matthew Hayden is attracting this sort of comment, I checked out some more stats and found them most interesting.

Conversion rate: Of the Aussie batsmen who've scored more than 7 tons, Haydos is the ONLY one to have more centuries than fifties - other than the Don, of course.

In the list below, it's also of note that two other present day batsmen, Ricky Ponting and Justin Langer, are in the top 10 of all time.

Don Bradman has 29 100s and 13 50s
Matthew Hayden: 11/10
Arthur Morris: 12/12
Lindsay Hassett: 10/11
Graham Yallop: 8/9
Neil Harvey: 21/24
Ricky Ponting: 13/16
Dean Jones: 11/14
Justin Langer: 12/16
Graeme Wood: 9/13

Donny.


GO THE MIGHTY WOODSMEN !! ALL THE WAY IN 2003 AND BEYOND !!!!

[Donny]

Well, JLC, another double ton against the Poms to Martin Love. He's probably put himself as first cab off the rank now if an injury occurs

Did Trescothick really put us in to bat on that road ? Are they complete masochists or just plain stupid ?

Declare on the first day ? I love the way Aussies play their cricket.

Donny.

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[Donny]

Funny stuff, Assasin. I do a cricket newsletter. May I use the above ?

Donny.

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[Miss_Lisey_Molloy]

I played cricket at the Gabba last Monday. I played with Craig, Tyrell, Ben and John and I hit the most runs! A total of 41 in like 45 mins! hehehe! It took ages coz the guys kept going out and would take ages to swap over!

I was very proud of myself!

On Tuesday I played 2 games of hockey. First game we had a draw! I scored 3 goals. Those were the only goals scored.
Second game we won by 2 goals. I scored another 3 goals! Those were the only goals we scored.
I was man of the match!
Love always, Alyssa xoxo

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[Donny]

No m8. Still interested. Patience is just one of my qualities. Lol.

The cricket scene in Australia must be the envy of all the other nations on the planet.

Our national team's success rate is quite outstanding, to say the least and our second team continues to embarrass touring teams. England lost 12 wickets today on a track where Aust. 'A' hit 3/350 in 300 minutes the previous day.

While Love, Clark and Blewett scored easily and Williams and Clark were ripping through down in Hobart, Brett Lee takes 11 wickets to add to his 10 last week, Bichel takes 8 in his game, the Oz skipper reels off a fluent century and Lehmann hits 97.

How did the world's best rated batsman and bowler go ? They were resting to be fresh for the Adelaide Test. Ouch !!

Donny.

GO THE MIGHTY WOODSMEN !! ALL THE WAY IN 2003 AND BEYOND !!!!

[Abi]

Assassin it's not a case of deprecating another tall poppy, more that I am not prepared to take everything at face value. Hayden is shaping up as a great bat but the reality is that the competition is not great at the moment. I know you can only bat against who is put up, but early in his career when the bowling was hotter he struggled. Similar case with Steve Waugh, his average started climbing as the depth of world fast bowling eroded. Like to see Hayden against the West Indian quartet of the early to mid 80s. My tip is that he would struggle. The fact that our second eleven is superior should highlight this. Most other eras wouldn't allow for our second eleven to dominate in such a manner. Also remember that in Hayden's knock of 197 he was dropped four times, good fielding teams wouldn't allow this to happen.

Cheers mate

Pie fan forever

[Donny]

Some good points, Abi, but when a team dominates, the opposition can fall apart. And remember, when we lose we can look pretty bad too.

'The competition is not that good at the present' is debatable. They still play good cricket against each other, eg. WI v India and Sri L. v RSA on at the moment.

When the Windies dominated, there was daylight in second spot but again, the other teams were still playing good cricket against each other.

Same happens in AFL. One team gets on top and forces mistakes from the other. The Aussie cricket team is doing this.

Good to hear from you, Abi.

Donny.

GO THE MIGHTY WOODSMEN !! ALL THE WAY IN 2003 AND BEYOND !!!!

[Abi]

In past decades players weren't lucky enough to play against the likes of Sri Lanka, money for jam if you're a batsman. There are no bowlers currently playing for the WI who would have got a gig in their halcyon days, no batsmen either for that matter. Neither Hoggard nor White would get a game for a Pura Cup side, White of course is a Vic reject. The Pakistan we played against a few weeks back had six of its top players missing. They had no recognised batters at all in their lineup, of course we will kill them. I do concede that we have a psychological advantage over many of the teams and individuals within those at the minute.

Pie fan forever

[Brown26]

are you saying that the aussie cricket team atm is not better than the other teams at full strength? or simply that we aren't as dominant as the results of the brissy test and paki tour would suggest (which is true I believe).

I think that this current team, and the team of two years ago, does rank up there with the best teams ever, but only just. McGrath is the best fast bowler in the world, warne is (arguably) the best spinner in the world, do these players rank with the lillies and holdings of previous eras? YES! they are damn good. Is a team of tendulkar, Lara, atherton (think of when he wasn't palyeing against australia!) etc good? YES - and they are all McGrath's bunnies. That's a good bowler, that's a great bowler.

I think the difference between some of the all time great WI and Aussie sides and the current aussie side is that batsmen (especially) in those teams were always in form (sign of a great player) where the batsmen in the current aussie team tend to be inconsistent. it doesn't matter atm cause two aussie bats can beat the whole english side, so it doesn't show as much. The bowlers, however, are world class and stand the test of time as GREAT players, imo.



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[molloymagic]

I was at the match down here Australia A vs England and i witnessed Love's 200 innings*s*. I got sunburnt slighty but was good to see the England side down here and hey it didn;t rain once woooohooo*s*
I'll be there for the Australia vs England one dayer in January 11th can't wait.

Jarrod Molloy RULES!!!!
*2003:The injury free season for Molloy!!*
*2002 Joint V.C*

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[Joel]

Didn't England win their past few test series?

If they did, then the argument that they are no good is rubbish. They play pathetic because Australia is so good.

Teams don't win 16 test matches in a row without being supreme.

JDF

"We've never quit, and we won't."