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Magpie_Dan wrote:AMON BUCHANON IS A LITTLE DOG FOR WHAT HE DONE! LUCKY I DIDNT JUMP THE FENCE AND SMACK HIM ONE!!! HE WAS FINE ONCE THE SIREN WENT and thats the quickest recovery I have ever seen from a cramp! Had the painfull drive home today but we had a few laughs about that sesspool Kings Cross!!!!
As MM said, our team would have done that, as would every other player/team. Its within the rules, so there's nor eason why you wouldn't do it.
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The obvious and useless, "You win some you lose some".

Of course that statement makes more sense than some of the CRAP I have read through in 9 pages of this thread. I'm certainly no self appointed expert, but I can safely say that a lot of you know SFA about football.

The "20 sec" did not cost us the game, and why roos can be critical about us receiving so many more free kicks is ridiculous, we got 'em because they were there. There weren't too many soft frees for us (with the exception of the one when Bucks came onto the ground that was laughable). The AFL have to get fair dinkum and send a message to that bloody thug hall. He continues to do it because he gets away with it. That elbow to the back of the head on Bucks was the act of a low dog.

Alf why so positive? Good to see BTW.
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I notice a lot of people have took it upon themselves to have a dig at Chris, I agree his kicking for goal needs some work but this is the only aspect of his game I think needs a little work. He draws two or more players on him every game and while he leads hard and gives us an option there has to other players (Caracella, Fraser etc) to take advantage of this mismatch. It worked perfectly against West Coast and when West Coast started manning up again it left Tarrant space to lead again and he scored a couple. Rocca bake in the side would compliment that strategy further more.
I've never seen a player be as unfairly treated by the umpires as Tarrant is. Big Statement I know but up until Richmond game I dont think he had recieved one, He is constantly unfairly manhandled and I can understand his frustration, just watch how the umpires treat Matthew Lloyd in comparison
Chris has a tough job and it is easy to be critical of a forward not kicking goals, but if he keeps attacking the footy the way he does and keeps drawing those extra men I believe he is doing a good job by creating free men in the forward line.
I believe Chris is going to be huge in the next few years further up the ground when we get Anthony back.
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Just another quick one about Egan. He looks like a great player, very athletic, but has anyone noticed how he always trys to deliver the ball to Tarrant despite what pressure he may be under (Tarrant)? anyway he still looks like a fantastic player for the future
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We played reasonably well, but obviously not well enough!

Lonie: Thought he gave us something (Including goal kicking accuracy!!)
Tarrant: A bit worried about him and his second efforts after the 1st quarter. I would like to know if/what he is carrying!!!
Didak: Had more time to steady than he probably realised which is bad luck but really a player of his calibre should've done better in that instance
O'Bree: Still not happy with his turnovers
Egan: To me it doesn't look like he puts his body into the contest but if the balls is loose within 50m i move to the edge of my seat!!!
Buckley: Do i really need to say anything!
Burns: See directly above!
Clement: See directly above!

Tough road from now on (Do i say that every week?!?!?!) - But am looking forward to reacquainting myself with Friday Night FEVER!!!
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Yes it can be tought.
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Miz wrote:Rowe needs to be thrown into the never to play again bin with Williams and Walker and O'Brees disposal was pathetic
A little harsh. I've been saying for a few weeks that he needs to go back to Willi to work on his kicking and learn how to man up and chase. I still think that he could potentially be a good player.

At the moment he is an outside reciever who doesn't do that job as well as Lonie.
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LadyPenelope wrote:Tarrant's errant kicking cost us the game and one must question his worth to the team.
The easy way out is to blame Tarrant. It wasn't one of his best performances and he did a couple of undiciplined things.
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bwphantom wrote:OK that is it I am sick of reading the absolute crap that is coming out of some peoples meagre brains. This is simple guys. Ask yourself how many guys did Sydney have out there that had played 50 games or less?

How many did we have? Maxwell, C2, C3, Rowe, Egan, Fanning, Swan, Lokan. Whether you like it or not experience does count in close tussles. And Sydneys experience showed and ours was lacking. We had johnson and fraser out, when I heard this I thought we may lose somewhere in the vicinity of 4-5 goals. These boys are playing well above themselves and deserve credit for the great effort they put in week in and week out.

Hell why don't we just trade the whole team. There are not many, and never will be players of buckleys calibre. So stop expecting all of our players young and old to be as good as what he is and support the boys who bleed, sweat, hurt in loss and joy in a win. I am proud of these boys as I am sure MM and the rest of the footy dept are. Because lets face it you run out on the field with the best team you can produce to try and win games to be playing in September. But if you take out any player out of any team in the league such as Bux, Rocca, fraser, Johnson, Shaw, then I am sorry to say be prepared for alot of pain down near the bottom of the ladder.

Once again we have all the supporters taking any opportunity to rip apart boys who are playing their guts out. If you can't see that then you must be seeing a different team that what I am. I am in no way making excuses, I am just allowing people to see that things are not as bad as all seems. And the pathetic thing is I don't see the same people coming on here at all when we win. So who is the Supporter?

By the way MM made a great move in that last 1/4 by sizing down our forward line. To mobile and quick for Sydney's backmen. But hey maybe you negative guys will say he should have done it earlier. But hay I forgot that most of you have coached a team to 2 grand finals with one team and taken another to 2 Grand finals and missed. Oh and that most of you have played more than 50 games for the Upper Cumbucter West League...Oh yeah you know what it is all about. WTF!!!!


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Hear Hear & Disgusted.

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Hear Hear as well bwphantom & to what I really wanted to express my views about is How disgusted I was with the way that some of our supporters carried on during the game on Saturday night. I live in Sydney & manage to get to a few games in Melb during the year, sometimes with my kids & others not, so when the Pies come to town I am there, tickets bought 1st day they are on sale.
This year , I decided to get tickets in the Collingwood Supporters area, right behind the Cheersquad, 10 or so rows from the front & my three kids were stoked to be there as was I , well until the towards the end of the game , when it seams like every second person was screaming abuse at our players. Like wake up people, I thought this was all about supporting our side , not kicking them when they make an error , or if they have a few bad weeks on the trot. Nobodys perfect & it sh*ts me no end the way people were going on about it. The obscene things coming out of the people arounds us mouths that my kids were subject to is just not on.
They were questioning me why dont they like so & so , & why this & that. Not the way to go about encouraging or showing kids how to support their team. More likely to turn them away.I left after the game disgusted at the way in which our supporters behaved.
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Magpie from Sydney, most of us don't like the way some supporters bag the players and I know what you mean.

I just thought I'd clarify the fact that the Collingwood Cheersquad only actually occupied the first 3 rows and we don't accept that type of "supporting" in the Cheersquad - nor do we allow drinking or swearing.

As for the rest of the crowd, unfortunately you get all types of "supporters" and adding alcohol doesn't exactly help.
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Some thoughts on Saturday Night:
Our key forwards (Tarrant, Caracella, Travis Cloke and Didak) didn't play well enough. If even one had stepped up then we would have won.

Amon Buchanan simply did what any defender should have done under the circumstances. Nothing wrong with that, it would have been stupid to kick it to a one-on-one contest inside our attacking fifty, much as we wanted it to happen.

The timekeepers made a bad mistake, but it hardly influenced the result... Buchanan undoubtedly would have found a teammate to kick it to, who would have then wound down the clock.

Swan and Maxwell were great down back, both played their best games since they started

Swan may feel pretty bad after he dropped that mark in the goalsquare but it was a courageous attempt all the same.... though perhaps he would have been better trying to rush a behind when it was in the air.

Buckley will play next year

Malthouse perhaps does whinge too much, but the suggestion by Barrett in todays hs that Malthouse is trying to distract attention from Collingwood's poor start to the season..... hey we've only been hit shockingly by injuries, come back and beaten two of the best teams in the comp then lost in a thriller v Sydney at their home ground...... perhaps Barrett should be more interested in teams such as Freo, St.Kilda, Essendon and Hawthorn, who really do have problems right now

Fanning tries hard but is going to take some time before he can make it as a good footballer... I'd like to see him given another run next week still.
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magpie_from_sydney wrote: well until the towards the end of the game , when it seams like every second person was screaming abuse at our players. Like wake up people, I thought this was all about supporting our side , not kicking them when they make an error , or if they have a few bad weeks on the trot. Nobodys perfect & it sh*ts me no end the way people were going on about it.
I can see what your saying but it depends how far they were going.

I was in row 35 and i had a go in the 2nd quarter at Dane Swan for which was another terrible kick inside 50, this young women (about 28 yo) the turned around at me and had a go at me for bagging my own player and not supporting my team, for someone who had spent a lot of money getting up to Sydney it pissed me off. In my view if you are a full on Collingwood nut you have to be critical at players for continously making mistakes if you just sit there and put up with it and Pengiun clap you cant be that involved in the game. Ok some people go over the top like the bloke last week who had a go at me for cheering Obree and Woey, but there is nothing wrong with being critical, if we were not then we would just be accepting mediocrity which we cant do.

Let me just say that this so called person hardly cheered throughout the match and the only way i could see she was a Collingwood supporter was the hint of an 1980's scarf under her Jacket. And she left as soon as the siren went, yeah who is not supporting their team now?
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Re: Hear Hear & Disgusted.

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creedymagpie wrote:And she left as soon as the siren went, yeah who is not supporting their team now?
there's nothing wrong with leaving when the siren sounds if your team has lost... lol actually I thought most people did this, why would you stay any longer?
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In the end there is one simple reason why we've lost the last two. On Saturday night it was simply this: Ten goals fifteen behinds.

In the first quarter we should have had a commading lead. We didn't. Because we threw away too many opportunities. We absolutely whipped them in the first with twelve entries into 50 to four in the first twelve minutes. At least five set shots went sideways, and no one can afford that, especially against the most innacurate side in the league (though I was surprised to find out that it wasn't us!).

We totaly outclassed Sydney in the opening stanza, Taz was running like a machine, Bucks was amazing, playing like a 24 year old, and Nick Maxwell showed yet again why he should be playing in the forward line. Egan, Dutchy, Cara, Jimmy, C3, Dids, Swannie, Wowie and Cheesy were fantastic, but going in at quarter time with a couple of points lead killed us and allowed the swans back in. If we'd been 6.2 at 1/4 time it would have been a very different game. Unfortunately Rowe is just not good enough at this point. Obviously others have seen something in the kid, and I'm willing to bow to their judgement, but I'm still yet to see a great game from him, and it's time for a run at Willi.

But in the end, if we'd kicked straight in the first we could've shut them out, it's something we're good at. Halfway through the second we were 1.5 from set shots.

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