A bit surprised to see only one change, and a bit surprised it was Lonie for Maxwell. Lonie hardly got a run on Sunday (played 30%), while Maxy didnt seem to do anything much against Box Hill. He was okay, and actually seemed a bit better when Gotchy moved him up forward for a bit (or was he following a bloke?), but he wouldnt have been in Willi's best, while T Cloke & King would certainly have been, Cloke especially. Egan's an emergency, but then so is C1 who did very little at Willi, I'd wanna see a huge improvement in Egan's hand & foot skills before he gets the nod.
A little surprised to see Williams get another go, but I suspect this is because his actual job is in far more danger than Ryan's, so he's been given another chance, but lets not forget he was amongst our best in the pre-season games.
Amazing stats on Fev/Whitnall against Taz/Pebbles. Our blokes have taken 3 more marks, had just four less kicks, & 3 less scoring shots, yet they've scored 34 points total to Carltons 66!
Given that we've lost our 2 games by a total of 38 That's our season right there!
Their blokes are confident, ours arent. The only way to change that is with a few wins. I gotta admit I dont feel confident about this one, I feel like our blokes just have too much pressure on them. If your problem is nerves the last thing you need is all this rivalry shite.
Ah well...
Go PIES!!!!!
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Collingwood by 19 points.
I'm not completely happy with the selected side, as I'd certainly have dropped Williams but would have given Lonie another chance, as he's a very good, talented player simply having a short, bad trot (unlike Williams, who is never going to amount to much).
However, we have a very settled backline and Maxwell will only add to its strength, therefore, I think we have the ability to shut down Carlton's forward line. The danger will be, as it was the case last year, Fevola. In their 3rd round win, it was Fevola who kept them in touch at 3/4 time. Therefore, the key is to shut him down completely, double-teaming him with Wakes and Jimmy if necessary, and restrict Carlton's options.
As always, the question becomes can WE score enough goals to win? If Tarrant plays further out than usual and Walker props himself in the goalsquare (and stays there for the whole flippin' game), the answer is "Yes". Instead of going 10-15, we are more than capable of going 15-10 or better and Carlton lack their key defenders, so we may never get a better opportunity. Blake Caracella has added a large amount of quality into the forward line, just as we expected he would, and I hope he goes on from last week's performance.
Provided Benny Johnson plays in the middle and Malthouse rotates him and guys like Shaw and Leon in there as well in order to add some pace to the grunt of Licuria and Burns, then we should win far more than our fair share of the ball. I'm not an O'Bree fan but, if he lines up on a wing with Rowe on the other, we'll certainly have a pacy centreline.
More than anything, though, we need to see the guys stand up and make a physical statement (purely within the rules, natch) like Johnno's crunching of Goodwin last week. Cloke will surely do that, as can Rocca, and Maxwell will take no prisoners on the backline, either. I dare say that if anyone is foolish enough to get between Walker and the ball that they will soon discover that's not smart, either!
Stand Proud!
'Pies by 19 in a cracker of a match.
I'm not completely happy with the selected side, as I'd certainly have dropped Williams but would have given Lonie another chance, as he's a very good, talented player simply having a short, bad trot (unlike Williams, who is never going to amount to much).
However, we have a very settled backline and Maxwell will only add to its strength, therefore, I think we have the ability to shut down Carlton's forward line. The danger will be, as it was the case last year, Fevola. In their 3rd round win, it was Fevola who kept them in touch at 3/4 time. Therefore, the key is to shut him down completely, double-teaming him with Wakes and Jimmy if necessary, and restrict Carlton's options.
As always, the question becomes can WE score enough goals to win? If Tarrant plays further out than usual and Walker props himself in the goalsquare (and stays there for the whole flippin' game), the answer is "Yes". Instead of going 10-15, we are more than capable of going 15-10 or better and Carlton lack their key defenders, so we may never get a better opportunity. Blake Caracella has added a large amount of quality into the forward line, just as we expected he would, and I hope he goes on from last week's performance.
Provided Benny Johnson plays in the middle and Malthouse rotates him and guys like Shaw and Leon in there as well in order to add some pace to the grunt of Licuria and Burns, then we should win far more than our fair share of the ball. I'm not an O'Bree fan but, if he lines up on a wing with Rowe on the other, we'll certainly have a pacy centreline.
More than anything, though, we need to see the guys stand up and make a physical statement (purely within the rules, natch) like Johnno's crunching of Goodwin last week. Cloke will surely do that, as can Rocca, and Maxwell will take no prisoners on the backline, either. I dare say that if anyone is foolish enough to get between Walker and the ball that they will soon discover that's not smart, either!
Stand Proud!
'Pies by 19 in a cracker of a match.
Glory Glory Good Old Collingwood, Glory Glory Hallelujah,
Collingwood's The Greatest Team The World Has Ever Seen,
And The 'Pies Go Marching On (in Black and White Stripes Forever!).
Collingwood's The Greatest Team The World Has Ever Seen,
And The 'Pies Go Marching On (in Black and White Stripes Forever!).
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Please, Please, Please can we beat the scum. I cant get to the game on sat and am going to a 21st that night were most are carrlton supporters and i need bragging rights!!!!!! (but i will get to watch it - thank god otherwise i think i wouyld kill someone!!!) and i want to be able to feel like we are going somewhere. Beating carlton after those 2 heartbreaking lossed last year would make my year, and make collingwood's season as there is nothing like some good old riviarly and a hard fought win to reignite the fire in our boys bellies!!!!!
Extremely glad that our sponsered player has finally got a guernsy as he is a player for the future!!!! His hardness at the ball will be a great addition to the team and as much as i love lonie he doesnt quite have the hardness that we need for such a much needed game (im not saying that we is crap cause his skills are better than half the side - but with him lacking confidence we need maxwell and for lonie to get his confidence back by starring at willy!!!)
The finisher (carrocella) was fantasic and the fact that we have a class act that can finish i think will be the difference against carlton, as their side is full of misfits and hacks that we shoud grind into the dirt and remind them that they are CRAP!!!!!!!
Ok well they do have some non-hacks (fev, stevens and kouta) but thats not the point i want us to go out there and KILL THEM
(legally of course) Instil fear and we will come out victors.
Pies to win by 13 points.
Extremely glad that our sponsered player has finally got a guernsy as he is a player for the future!!!! His hardness at the ball will be a great addition to the team and as much as i love lonie he doesnt quite have the hardness that we need for such a much needed game (im not saying that we is crap cause his skills are better than half the side - but with him lacking confidence we need maxwell and for lonie to get his confidence back by starring at willy!!!)
The finisher (carrocella) was fantasic and the fact that we have a class act that can finish i think will be the difference against carlton, as their side is full of misfits and hacks that we shoud grind into the dirt and remind them that they are CRAP!!!!!!!
Ok well they do have some non-hacks (fev, stevens and kouta) but thats not the point i want us to go out there and KILL THEM
(legally of course) Instil fear and we will come out victors.Pies to win by 13 points.
Partyn & the pies is there nemore to life???
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Injury continues to trouble Tarrant
Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse has conceded full-forward Chris Tarrant is still suffering the affects of a knee injury.
Tarrant did not participate in team drills at the Magpies' training this afternoon, preferring to have goalkicking practice.
Malthouse said he was hoping Tarrant would improve in the next few weeks.
"His only worry is representing the side as best he can," Malthouse said.
"He is not as right as he has been at various stages during his career but we expect that, as time goes on, he'll get better."
Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse has conceded full-forward Chris Tarrant is still suffering the affects of a knee injury.
Tarrant did not participate in team drills at the Magpies' training this afternoon, preferring to have goalkicking practice.
Malthouse said he was hoping Tarrant would improve in the next few weeks.
"His only worry is representing the side as best he can," Malthouse said.
"He is not as right as he has been at various stages during his career but we expect that, as time goes on, he'll get better."
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Heard Burnsy on the radio - steely determination to improve. Said the boys were on the improve and not far away. Looking at the last two games you could see that by the end we were coming good but were let down by a poor first half. Now this is the week to string a whole game together and play for each other with purpose and resolve.
Beat the blues !!
Pies in a close one by 5.
Beat the blues !!
Pies in a close one by 5.
Let all your troubles be forgot for we are Collingwood. We'll fight it out until the end we're Collingwood. So help me Jock.
Two pies and two beers thanks!!
Two pies and two beers thanks!!
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I hope we flog 'em. I have blind faith in this. So I have tipped us to win. Though our records since 1990 has been appalling against them. Something like 8 to 16 in their favour.
Surely they are not up to two good games in a row! Surely we can not play as bad as we have in the first two rounds.
I hope they do it for us.
Surely they are not up to two good games in a row! Surely we can not play as bad as we have in the first two rounds.
I hope they do it for us.
Scooby Doo says "I've been to Lexus too."
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Heard Burnsy on the radio - steely determination to improve. Said the boys were on the improve and not far away. Looking at the last two games you could see that by the end we were coming good but were let down by a poor first half. Now this is the week to string a whole game together and play for each other with purpose and resolve.
Beat the blues !!
Pies in a close one by 5.
Beat the blues !!
Pies in a close one by 5.
Let all your troubles be forgot for we are Collingwood. We'll fight it out until the end we're Collingwood. So help me Jock.
Two pies and two beers thanks!!
Two pies and two beers thanks!!
