Post match v Cows..all comments here

[Proud Pies]

and why are we even beating ourselves up over any of this?

MM won't give a rats what we think. He has his game plan and that's the way they will play the game and then he will again blame them for the loss.

He said the first half was the worst football he'd ever seen in his career. Well, hate to tell you MM, you created it!

[Culprit]

O'Bree is a dsigrace and should not get a game again.

[swooper]

Skills were woeful, disposal - dreadful. How many goals did the crows score through turnovers? How can MM be blamed for that? There's only so much he can do, not his fault if many of our players continue to turn the ball over and miss targets. Morrison's turnover in the dying minutes of the last quarter was unforgiveable. He is not the only one to blame however, and if I was Tazza, I would be bloody fuming at some of the deliveries from my teamates

[eddiesmith]

None were great, none were even very good, some were good, most were average.

Shaw and O'Bree at least didn't stuff up too often.

Cam and Tex if these guys are our big men for the season, gawd help us.

Cara and Chadley, serviceable Cara more than Chadley today.

Rocca and Tazza, play Rocca at FF and send Tazza into the centre, give him a break from forward work and we never know he may just fit in nicely.

Wakes, Clem and Presti, Wakes and Clem played half a game each worth noting. Presti, is on his last legs.

Woey, Williamstown FC deserve this bleach blond babe!

Rowe, was OK he may have done enough to keep his place.

Brodes, was off the ground more than he was on it. Why?

Leon, tried without doing much. Can we get Daics down at Lexus to lend his some expertise?

As someone else has said, time for a Crisis Meeting Edward.

1 positive thing is, you have no say down at the club. We should all be thankful for that

[sq3]

Swooper - MM IS the blame.

If at work you need marketing or accounting help you hire or contract someone to rectify that situation.

MM watches the footage and they still don't have a full time skills coach.

He is in charge of the off field conditioning, development and game plan.

If he can't see where they need help - we end up in the EXACT situation we are in.

[rosspies]

THe stats tell it all this man can not get another game

Andrew Williams k3 h2 p5 1 goal Williamstown is your home.

Send O'Bree there as well please

[swooper]

SQ3, surely MM cant take all the blame? Why take the heat off the players? Granted, I agree with you re. full time skills coach, but these guys are pro's now and quite often they miss targets...I mean, Ive never played footy (except back yard with my older brother!) but how hard can it be to hit a player in the chest (and not a crows player).

The other thing that is disappointing is Im sure many of us would have looked at the draw before the season and pencilled in a win against crows and doggies......hate to think what the blues will do to us next week..argh...

[sq3]

Swooper - as far as football, on field and training he is the CEO - so the buck stops with him.

After all he got SOS down to coach the defenders - but could not see the skills short fall.

Also to blame badly is Buttifant.

Most of these guys could not run out of sight on a dark night.

Buttifant screwed up the conditioning in 2004 and he is doing a similar job this year as well.

When you are poorly conditioned the first thing that suffers is your technique (i.e. Skills) and this is very apparent in the Pies of 2004 and 2005.

At training they seem to be regularly missing targets so game day is worse - due to the match pressure.

Skills turnovers giving the opposition side shots at goals (and scoring goals) is the biggest sign of failure of all.

Pies are sinking and are the laughung stock of the league.

If Eddie and the board don't react the membership will decrease and sponsorship will reduce and be tougher to get as they are both driven by on field success.

Pies purport to be a state of the art club - but are a joke.

[collingwoodpies25]

What did we do over the pre-season? Play cards? Get a tan like Woe? Yet again the season starts and we look like the student who forgot what time the exam started!!

Sack MM and the rest of the clowns who let this rabble waltz out unprepared!

(with the excepton of Wakes, Clemo and Tarks and whilst Cloke did some good things he is far too much of a smart @ss for my liking - it must be great to be cocky in a losing side)

[Sultan of spin]

MM has last the plot, we were dominating possesion in the second quarter but Adel put a couple of loose men in defence (same as Eade last week) and just like last week MM has too stupid to man them up so everytime we kicked it forward Ant and Taz had 2 opponents each, so of course numerous turnovers were the result.

[magpiemuse]

**sob**

[Sultan of spin]

Lonie has to go, he was pathetic today and has absolutely no confidence, Williams was his usual self - absolutely hopeless, O'bree was much better today but even his best is ordinary - too slow and can't kick.

King will definitely come in, Egan will be close and I think even Lokan is better than Lonie at the momment at least he has a fair dinkum go.

[Woods Of Ypres]

Just got home off the train. Yes, disappointed, but its a long season. I thought Neon Davis played very well, attacked well, and kicked well (found Tazza on the chest with a couple of beauties).

The highlight for me was Johnno's hit on Tyson Edwards about 10 mins into the last. Edwards was killing us all day (30 touches till then?) and Johnno fixed him up good. He was one sick puppy leaving the field.

I think u will find it was goodwin, and he brushed the trainers away.

Yeh my mistake it was Goodwin, yeh he brushed them off, but 2 minutes later they took him off coz he was still hunched over

[sourav04]

For all the players that are being bagged at the moment, there is only one that is not doing anything whatsoever.

Rocca - Not kicking or marking well, esp the former but at least throws his body around, breaks open packs and creates for others if he is not playing well.

Tarrant - Keeps leading and leading and leading. Not kicking well or marking well but does keep presenting. Kicking to him today was shocking

Davis - Does not get much of the ball but when does, creates goals for others. He is creative.

O'Bree - At least gets the bloody ball and kicks it forward if not always to someone. He is open, he is running and he is trying

Lonie and Tarkyn are down. Burns was down today but can never be questioned. Even Walker tries.

Williams - Does absolutely nothing whatsoever. Someoen tell me anything he does. There are not buts with him. He does nothing. Zilch. He doesnt even get the ball to turn it over. He doesnt even mark the ball to miss goals. He does not even present to be ignored. He does absolutely nothing and he is the only one that does not contribute whatsover.

[COLEingwood]

i know alot of people bag him here but feel sorry for tarrent!!!!

leave us tazza go play for a team who will kick it to you at least 5-6 times out of 10... not like our shit no skilled team, lucky if he gets it kicked to him 1 time out of 10! or the other option is to turn him into inspector gaget... so he can mark the ball when its kicked 20 mtrs over his head EVERY BLOODY TIME!!!!

and about the rest of our team.... best if i dont say anything actually!