Post Match. Pies pump Port. All comments.

Match previews, reviews, reports and discussion.

Moderator: bbmods

mgh3536
Posts: 818
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2003 8:01 pm
Location: Melbourne

Post by mgh3536 »

Rant…
damn port supporters with black and white bars on the jumpers

**** of back to sanfl
User avatar
Magpietothemax
Posts: 8025
Joined: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:05 pm
Has liked: 27 times
Been liked: 31 times

Post by Magpietothemax »

Take_a_Screamer wrote:The moment when the game changed?

13 minutes to go in the second quarter. WHE took a screamer in the goal square after a setup kick from Jaicos who took the free from an out-of-bounds on the full.

WHE Screamer @ 44:40 https://www.afl.com.au/video/1112259
I agree. For the first few minutes of the 2nd quarter, we looked down again. When WHE took that mark, something clicked in the Collingwood psyche, and we remembered how we played last year.
Free Julian Assange!!
Ice in the veins
User avatar
Magpietothemax
Posts: 8025
Joined: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:05 pm
Has liked: 27 times
Been liked: 31 times

Post by Magpietothemax »

Extraordinary win. Even Gary Lyon could not hold back his admiration and respect for what our team achieved in this game. Down 31 points during the 1st quarter, the inner belief remained alive - though no one on the outside could see it.
When we suddenly clicked, after WHE's mark, it seemed like a pivotal moment. Suddenly, we were back to the combination of structure and pressure that won the flag last year.
It seemed in the first quarter that we were attempting to emphasize pressure, but had forgotten the necessity of structure, because in fact pressure is impossible without defensive structure. So we had many players, as the commentators pointed out, running to the contest at all costs, leaving their opponents free to wreak havoc. But, briefly in the final minutes of the first quarter, and then absolutely after WHE's mark, the memory of how we combined both elements so brilliantly last year, reinvested the entire team. It was a 2023 like performance from then on. WHE - what an astonishing game. He turned the clock back to 2018, when he played an amazing season in the forward line.
I also loved our decision to select Reef McInnes as sub, and obviously play with a super small forward line to exploit PA's super tall defence. When our ball movement got off the chain, and combined with WHE's 2018 like form in the forward half, this plan succeeded far more brilliantly even than the planners could have imagined!!
I also loved the way in his presser that Fly acknowledged both WHE and Patrick Lipinski, emphasizing that today they were getting their truly deserved acknowledgement, because their performances were crowned by goals, but usually they go unacknowledged because they execute their roles "in the background", ie they go unnoticed by most, but not by the coaches and their teammates.
I freely admit that I have been one to underestimate WHE's contribution, and I have decided that I will make a concerted effort to pay more attention during games as to what he is actually doing "in the background".
Free Julian Assange!!
Ice in the veins
qldmagpie67
Posts: 6077
Joined: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:41 pm
Been liked: 118 times

Post by qldmagpie67 »

Expanding on pies 2016
The way the game is played pressure is king
When our game average is above 195 (bordering elite) over the 4 quarters we either win or are close to winning
Yesterday we averaged 212 across 4 quarters which is outstanding
The down side is this type of constant pressure (perceived or otherwise) takes a toll
It takes a massive effort to constantly run your engine at such a level
From a outsider looking in in the coaches box they have access to real time GPS data and can fashion our match ups and interchanges accordingly
Watch most of our games when a player kicks a goal for us they more often than not stay on the field unlike other clubs who automatically run to the bench
I believe our high performance guys know exactly the levels our players can reach and how long they can sustain it for and that dictates there interchange or their position played on the field
You’ll see Lipinski start in the middle then on a wing or as a high half forward depending
Pendles will switch between on the ball and HBF
Like wise Nick D
You’ll see McCreery and Elliott pinch hit in the middle
Or now we are seeing Hill and McCreery pushing up field then Turing snd bolting back towards goal.
McCreery had 11 touches yesterday 4 in the back half which means he gave us another option with speed launching our attack off HBF
Mitchell had 21 touches but had 10 tackles and 7 clearances and I’m willing to bet he wouldn’t have had a touch outside if 3m if a contest
He was at the coal face all day
Nick D had 30 touches and 8 clearances but his damage from those 30 touches was great
I think the guy who is fast becoming a vital part of our team is Schulz
While he had only 10 touches he also had 5 sheppards 3 of which led directly to goals and a game high 31 pressure acts
A lot of what he is doing is going unnoticed
The goals will come but the quickest way to earn your team mates respect is roll the sleeves up and do all the little dirty things that doesn’t get you Brownlow votes but doesn’t go unrecognised by the coaches snd your team mates
How many times yesterday did you see 2 or 3 Collingwood players making the same tackle ? How many times did you see the last player up at the bottom of a pack was a Collingwood player ?
That shows team work and hard work
Speaking of team first I love Bobby Hill being so unselfish but at times (a couple at least yesterday) I would prefer him to be a little selfish and take a shoot instead of trying to set a team mate on
As great as team play is the best forwards small or tall have all had a little selfishness in them he just needs to be a little more greedy at times
User avatar
WhyPhilWhy?
Posts: 9547
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2001 6:01 pm
Location: Location: Location:
Has liked: 44 times
Been liked: 37 times

Post by WhyPhilWhy? »

I saw Bobby called “Oprah” elsewhere.

“You get a goal, and you get a goal, and you get a goal too!”
Ronnie McKeowns boots
Posts: 2032
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:49 pm

Post by Ronnie McKeowns boots »

Wow! Although WHE's classy bit of play before quarter time gave some relief...I thought we were cooked at quarter time.

But the lift across the whole team...plus the seemingly superhuman effort of WHE, the Timelord, the Ghost Who Walks....wow. Hats off to the performance.

Back that up on Thursday and we are as good a chance as anyone moving forward
"You hate a mean man, a grasping man, a man who wants everything and gives nothing. That’s Collingwood. They are a law unto themselves"

Jack 'Captain Blood' Dyer
Ronnie McKeowns boots
Posts: 2032
Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:49 pm

Post by Ronnie McKeowns boots »

WhyPhilWhy? wrote:I saw Bobby called “Oprah” elsewhere.

“You get a goal, and you get a goal, and you get a goal too!”
That's brilliant, I love it
"You hate a mean man, a grasping man, a man who wants everything and gives nothing. That’s Collingwood. They are a law unto themselves"

Jack 'Captain Blood' Dyer
23 YIPPEE!!!

Post by 23 YIPPEE!!! »

Just going through records and yesterday was the biggest turnaround from deficit to winning margin since 1995
And top 5 of all time
At 1 minute we were at the stage 40 points down
Then won by 42 points
User avatar
RudeBoy
Posts: 22174
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:08 pm
Been liked: 150 times

Post by RudeBoy »

Given how well our forward line performed yesterday, I'm wondering if Fly might consider dropping McInnes for the ANZAC game and promoting a midfielder, like Macrae, Harrison or Sullivan to the sub role?

It's not because McInnes did anything wrong, but rather that our forward line functioned the best it has all year without him.
lazzadesilva
Posts: 2272
Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2003 8:01 pm
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 94 times

Post by lazzadesilva »

^^^^Unless for an illness, I can’t see any changes being made.
I term the current Collingwood attack based strategy “Unceasing Waves” like on a stormy and windy day with rough seas. A Perfect Storm ☔️
User avatar
Jezza
Posts: 29547
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:28 pm
Location: Ponsford End
Has liked: 272 times
Been liked: 359 times

Post by Jezza »

23 YIPPEE!!! wrote:Just going through records and yesterday was the biggest turnaround from deficit to winning margin since 1995
And top 5 of all time
At 1 minute we were at the stage 40 points down
Then won by 42 points
What are you saying?

The biggest deficit yesterday was 31 points in the latter stages of the first quarter. It was nowhere near the biggest comeback in this century alone, let alone since 1995.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1085515/the ... since-2015
🏆 | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | 🏆
User avatar
Jezza
Posts: 29547
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:28 pm
Location: Ponsford End
Has liked: 272 times
Been liked: 359 times

Post by Jezza »

Scoring 123 points yesterday was our biggest score since Round 2 last year, which happened to be against Port Adelaide as well.

My reaction the day after is still one of happiness and enthusiasm. Still on a high knowing that we're still capable of producing a performance that is Premiership standard when we're switched on and we play with high intensity.

Everything we've been hoping for was there yesterday. The turnover game was excellent, generating scores from the back half with our smooth transition, and our pressure rating was close to 200 which is elite at this level. Sustain those sorts of numbers and we'll be winning more often than not.

Great to see our role players WHE and Lipinski shine yesterday. Fly emphasised how important these two were in our turnaround. WHE's numbers were significant. 21 disposals, 13 score involvements, 9 marks and 2 goals.
🏆 | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | 🏆
User avatar
Take_a_Screamer
Posts: 2072
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:51 pm
Location: Melbourne S.E.Suburbs
Has liked: 11 times
Been liked: 39 times
Contact:

Post by Take_a_Screamer »

RudeBoy wrote:Given how well our forward line performed yesterday, I'm wondering if Fly might consider dropping McInnes for the ANZAC game and promoting a midfielder, like Macrae, Harrison or Sullivan to the sub role?

It's not because McInnes did anything wrong, but rather that our forward line functioned the best it has all year without him.
I'd like to see "No change" to the team, yes...
But also keep Reef as the sub and bring him on as before.
I think we should keep Reef as part of our best 23. This allows Reef time to feel a part of the action and develop confidence.
If someone gets injured in the fwd line we will be glad to have him there.
Ash Johnson...you beauty
Johnson Screamer @ https://www.afl.com.au/video/931485/joh ... -epic-mark? ❤️️
User avatar
think positive
Posts: 40243
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:33 pm
Location: somewhere
Has liked: 342 times
Been liked: 105 times

Post by think positive »

WhyPhilWhy? wrote:I saw Bobby called “Oprah” elsewhere.

“You get a goal, and you get a goal, and you get a goal too!”
hehehe thats what i said at the game!!!
alas, wasnt one under my seat!
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
User avatar
What'sinaname
Posts: 20136
Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 10:00 pm
Location: Living rent free
Has liked: 8 times
Been liked: 35 times

Post by What'sinaname »

Jezza wrote:
23 YIPPEE!!! wrote:Just going through records and yesterday was the biggest turnaround from deficit to winning margin since 1995
And top 5 of all time
At 1 minute we were at the stage 40 points down
Then won by 42 points
What are you saying?

The biggest deficit yesterday was 31 points in the latter stages of the first quarter. It was nowhere near the biggest comeback in this century alone, let alone since 1995.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1085515/the ... since-2015
I think he's referring to the biggest turnaround, not winning from the biggest deficit.

2021 GF was a 19 point deficit turned into a 74 point win.

Plus there is all of the games with huge margins. I haven't checked, but there is likely a situation where the oppo gets the first score before losing by 100+ points.
Fighting against the objectification of woman.
Post Reply