Coronavirus 5 - Last Blood

[pietillidie]

This Aussie finding is pretty much what one might expect with vaccines: overwhelming good with the odd complication that is very minor compared to the greater benefits. In a sane world this wouldn't need to be said, but the studies still need to be done to make the point:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... 99-million

[Culprit]

^^Just another thing for the cooker community to latch on to. Measles and Polio are making a comeback because of conspiracy theories. Side effects from every form of medication and vaccine are nothing new but alas the cooker community loves this crap.

[Skids]

Every person I know who didn't have the vaccine is fine.

I had the 3 I had to have to keep my job and that's the only reason I'd have another... if I was blackmailed.

[What'sinaname]

So forced jabs are found to have breached Sec 58 of the Human Rights Act.

[Pies4shaw]

^ No. The decision-making process in that particular case was unlawful because it did not comply with a requirement under local Queensland law to consider human rights issues. The decision was, consequently, struck down because it was vitiated by legal error. The decision does not mean that vaccines can't be compulsory under Queensland law - it just means the relevant bureaucrats have to do their job properly in reaching that determination. Put simply, one overcomes what was - in technical terms - a failure to take into account a relevant consideration by taking that consideration into account and reaching a considered determination that - to put it colourfully - on balance, the public health benefits of the proposed action outweigh the paranoid ravings of numpties.

That is, this was a judicial review application, concerning the procedural correctness of the exercise of the adminisitrative decision-making power. The subject matter of such a proceeding can never be the substantive exercise of power.

Of course, it should not surprise anyone that Queensland authorities struggle with due process. It's been a problem there for many decades. "Don't you worry about that".

[pietillidie]

This seems like a fairly mainstream update of what we know, or think we know, about Covid thus far:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/09/well ... eries.html

[Skids]

From that article.

"But with Covid, children seem to have largely been spared from severe illness. Only a small number are hospitalized or develop life-threatening conditions like multisystem inflammatory syndrome, or MIS-C.

We now have a clearer idea why that’s the case: Children’s immune systems may be better primed against Covid precisely because they are frequently exposed to the benign coronaviruses that cause common colds, said Dr. Alpana Waghmare, an infectious disease specialist at Seattle Children’s Hospital."


Same for plumbers I assume. I could count the number of times a cold/flu has stopped me from going to work in the last 45 years on one hand.



"In some cases, the body can fight off the virus before it replicates enough to cause symptoms, or clear it so quickly that a person never tests positive."

Never tested positive on a RAT, the only time I tested positive (no symptoms though) was on a pcr when the rest of the family were showing symptoms.



Vaccination rates in Australia have been below 10% of the population for the past 12 months.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

My poor old neighbours across the road, Vic (80) and his missus (78 ) are still terrified from the initial media hysteria. They rarely go out and have had over half a dozen 'boosters'

[nomadjack]

I'm still a novid despite it being through our house a couple of times. Have kept up with vaccines and boosters - and will have another one before the weather turns to crap. Rarely get sick from other viruses or the flu. Probably a good thing given my health profile...(high blood pressure; obesity; type 2 diabetes; kidney disease; and general stupidity).

[David]

[Culprit]

Each day someone at work has Covid. Now many suggest it's just a way to take a sick day but in our work, you just WFH. Most are young and have got it through their kids or siblings. Many have now had it multiple times and many have had minimal vaccines. Now I am still a Novid and minimise my risk. Covid now seems to be the norm like the flu.

[stui magpie]

^

I still haven't had it, at least not that I know.

Went down to the pharmacy last week and got the annual Covid shot in one arm and the Flu shot in the other

[Culprit]

^

I still haven't had it, at least not that I know.

Went down to the pharmacy last week and got the annual Covid shot in one arm and the Flu shot in the other

Has the second head started to appear yet?

[stui magpie]

^

Only when I watch pron.

I'm immensely disappointed that after all these Covid shots I still haven't developed super powers or 5G reception

[David]

A pretty damning report on Andrews' COVID-19 policies, as summarised by Bernard Keane in Crikey:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/10/30/co ... -victoria/

Unjustified, racist and harmful: An expert review damns Dictator Dan’s lockdowns
Bernard Keane

Daniel Andrews’ lockdowns and other curbs on basic freedoms during the pandemic were unjustified, inconsistently enforced in a racially discriminatory way, harmed kids and women disproportionately, and in some cases resulted in outcomes the reverse of those intended.

That’s the conclusion not of Victorian Labor’s political opponents, nor right-wing extremists and cookers, but of the Albanese government’s expert review of the pandemic, conducted by veteran health bureaucrat Robyn Kruk, epidemiologist Catherine Bennet and health economist Angela Jackson — an independent and unimpeachably qualified team.

The 900-page report makes for ugly reading for the former NSW and Victorian governments and lockdown advocates, and especially the Andrews government, which the evidence shows exercised extreme powers without justification or consistency.

On lockdowns, for example, the review concludes:

We heard that lockdowns have lost credibility with the Australian public. This is particularly the case in Victoria. The city of Melbourne was kept in lockdown for 112 days in the second wave in 2020. The final 30 days of that lockdown had either single-digit case numbers or zero cases reported, and most were contacts of known cases in quarantine … For more than half of the latter part of that wave, most cases were directly linked to aged care facility outbreaks. The rest of the population were kept in lockdown to reduce the risk of outbreaks spreading back into the community via workers or their household contacts.

And:

Use of statewide lockdowns where there had been no recent cases outside a capital city, rather than localised lockdowns, contributed to the loss of credibility. Advice to the chief medical officer from the National COVID-19 Health and Research Advisory Committee on 30 July 2021 synthesised the benefits of localised short-term lockdowns to manage COVID-19 outbreaks. South Australia successfully used a short, sharp lockdown to contain transmission after a person crossed into the state who was unknowingly infectious with the Delta variant, preventing a large outbreak (which was contained within a few chains of transmission, compared with New South Wales and Victoria, which never succeeded in getting back to zero cases).

Moreover, the enforcement of lockdowns, including Andrews’ notorious hard lockdown of housing towers in Melbourne, was wildly racially discriminatory, with an analysis of COVID-19 fines issued in Victoria in 2020 determining that “African and Middle Eastern people were four times more likely to receive fines, and local government areas with higher proportions of non-English speaking backgrounds had higher levels of fines”.

Not all states followed Andrews’ lead in hardline enforcement. “Others chose a more health-driven, educational approach. For example, we heard that the Australian Capital Territory chose to balance the risk of spreading COVID-19 with the protection of human rights and displayed better engagement overall. Evidence suggests that relying on an enforcement approach does not necessarily provide the intended outcome and can have negative impacts.”

Victorian police, while ferociously enforcing restrictions on civil liberties, also used information from government contact-tracing apps for other investigations, further eroding public trust. And not merely were the Andrews’ government’s lockdowns unjustified, but they also inflicted significant damage on Victorians. “Safer Care Victoria found that, between September 2020 and January 2022, five Victorian children aged 0 to 4 died from complications associated with malnutrition and neglect. This was a concerning increase from the two neglect-associated deaths recorded between 2000 and 2019.”

And women bore the brunt of them. “Caring responsibilities increased for both women and men during the pandemic, but women spent more hours providing care for children or other family members, even in dual-income households. One study found that in 2020, women spent approximately five hours more per week on unpaid care work compared to men. This gap grew to nine hours per week when observing couples with dependent children. The same study found the gender gap in unpaid care work widened as a result of the Melbourne lockdown”.

The panel also criticises quarantine for returning travellers, which Andrews spectacularly botched in a series of disastrous decisions for which he was never held accountable: “The assumption that Australians returning from home [sic] would not adequately quarantine, without good evidence to support this, meant that quarantine for all international arrivals was based on the premise that citizens could not be trusted … if home quarantine compliance was adequate for managing local outbreaks throughout the pandemic — and random checking by police did indicate that most were compliant in the second wave in Victoria — then hotel quarantine could have been freed up for symptomatic returnees or other arrivals who had no home to go to or who had vulnerable people at home they did not want to expose to risk of infection”.

And Andrews’ absurd mask mandate for kids actually led to more infections: “Victorian data showed that children aged eight to 11, who were required to wear masks under state orders, had higher infection rates than those aged five to seven, who were not required to wear masks and had previously had the same infection rates. The older children wearing masks also had higher recent vaccination uptake, so would be expected to have had lower infection rates than the younger cohort during this term.”

The evidence assembled by the expert panel is damning: the lockdowns weren’t justified, they harmed Victorians, and — contra Andrews’ reputation for leading a progressive government — were enforced by a power-gorged Victorian police force disproportionately against people of non-English-speaking backgrounds.

“Dictator Dan” might have seemed extremist rhetoric at the time, but it was a lot closer to the truth than his feral supporters will ever admit.

[Culprit]

The next pandemic will be left to run its course and those that die to bad. I hope we go further and start removing all warning signs/labels. Natural attrition works.