Israeli–Palestinian conflict

[think positive]

Gees that 60 min segment

Both sides are ducked in the head, no one will cede a point, they do t give two shits about civilians, either of them, as bad as each other,2 kids at kinder, you started it, no you did,

We expected retaliation but not that much! It’s barbaric

But kidnapping and shooting people at a festival, or children in bunkers, that’s not barbaric?

[David]

Some interesting info here about the structure of Hamas and the organisation's goals:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-des ... s-thinking

[David]

A rundown of the situation on the Egyptian border: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... lestinians

[Magpietothemax]

From Al Jazeera:
Israel has carpet bombed Gaza for the tenth day. Israel, according to its own announcement, has dropped 6000 bombs since Oct 7 on Gaza. This is almost equivalent to all the bombs that the US dropped on Afghanistan in one year. Aftghanistan has an area 1800 times that of Gaza.
Right now, with 300000 troops amassed for a ground invasion, Israel waits as its economic blockade, and deliberate policy of mass murder through dehydration and starvation continues to take effect.
The actions of the Netahanyu government resemble those of the Nazi regime when it encountered mass resistance. Collective punishment where the death toll of those who dared to oppose their murderous repression outweighed the deaths on their side by a factor of 100 or more.
But international protests are amplifying across the world. The vast mass of the world's population opposes the Isreali regime.

[think positive]

gees how is anyone still alive?

bombing convoys as they try to get people out of the strip - that's where they really crossed the line to the point of no return. even the US cant spin that.

[Magpietothemax]

UN now saying that Israel's evacuation of citizens from northern Gaza to the south is a war crime because people are being forced to move to a destination where there is no accommodation, and no supplies of food nor drinking water - in other words, a death march.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-17/ ... post-54972
At the same time, Israel keeps pounding Gaza from the air.
Israel's strategy might be to avoid a ground invasion by killing 2 million Gaza citizens by starvation and dehydration, combined with random bombardment from the air.
According to other news sources, Gaza will completely run out of water in less than 24 hours.
We are witnessing a war crime of gigantic proportions, not seen since the destruction of Iraq by the US military for non-existent weapons of mass destruction.
In Britain, a group of lawyers advocating for human rights in Palestine, have warned Torey PM Sunak and Labor opposition leader Starmer that they will prosecute them as accomplices to war crimes because they have given unconditional support to the Israeli government.

As I have said, the real terrorists in this situation are not the Hamas militants, but instead is the Israeli government, which is being aided by politicians in Western governments who are accomplices to war crimes....and that includes Albanese and Dutton.

[pietillidie]

So predictably depressing.

This reminds me a lot of the Iraq War. One of the biggest signs disaster was imminent was the quality of the people involved: Bush, Cheney, Blair and weasly Little Johnny, mobs of fist-waving racists, opportunists looking for a dirty dollar, and apocalytpic religious crazies.

Here we have the grotesque Netanyahu and mobs of fist-waving racists, mobs of fist-waving racists, opportunists looking for a dirty dollar, and apocalyptic religious crazies.

Honestly, I could make if a fortune if I bet against creeps. They're nothing if not completely predictable. I'm telling you, as soon as you see those people coalesce on an issue or hold sway over resolving a problem, there is a 99% chance you'll be right if you anticpate they will wreck the joint and pass on the bill to others.

The smart investors can pick these things a mile off. Issue after issue, problem after problem, crisis after crisis, great and small. It's a near-foolproof bet to know what that mix of people which achieve. I only don't play them through the markets because it's soul-destroying to view the world that way. But you can't really blame investors for reading the tea leaves and managing risk accordingly.

I don't call this type of scenario 'crisis capitalism' as the left does. The bulk of investors are simply reacting to risk. I see it more as a dysfunctional pop fascism that seizes power because everyone else is too sane to jump into the filth with them restore decency. You can't argue with cults of insanity, which is why the line between them and Hamas is almost indiscernible.

You just can't beat the supreme human advantage of a combination of shamelessness, extremist motivation, numerical heft and car-crash attention seeking media. Not a hope in hell. So, the rest of us are reduced to the role of emergency services, paying for and cleaning up the mess that the deranged inevitably leave behind.

[David]

[think positive]

just 5? its not just 5 if they are your relos

who ever fired the rocket, and whoever ordered it, should get the death penalty

[David]

[Magpietothemax]

Israel has carried out a horrific war crime by bombing the hospital in northern Gaza. Prior to this atrocity, Israel has been systematically targeting schools, ambulances, hospitals and medical infrastructure in its bombing campaign. It is part of a deliberate strategy to deprive the Gaza population of all medical assistance. Two days before destroying this hospital, the Israel army had fired two warning shells at it, demanding that all staff and patients be evacuated to south Gaza. The hospital staff refused, because there would be no facilities available for them to go, and patients requiring critical medical support would die as a result of such an evacuation. Now, Israel has razed the hospital to the ground, and killed over 500 people. This weekend, Biden is visiting Israel to shake the hand of mass murderer and war criminal Netahanyu.
The US government and its counterparts in Europe support the genocide of the Palestinian population, which their proxy Israel is carrying out with their blessing.
We are witnessing state terrorism on an industrial scale by the Israeli government and its accomplices in Washington, and European capitals as well. Nor should we forget that Albanese and Dutton have both also openly articulated their support for Israel to "act in self-defence" and have remained silent about the crimes that the Israeli government is committing.

[Magpietothemax]

just 5? its not just 5 if they are your relos

who ever fired the rocket, and whoever ordered it, should get the death penalty

So that would mean that the Netahanyu government should incur 100 death penalties, since it has just murdered 500 innocent refugees, patients and doctors.

[David]

[Magpietothemax]

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