Pre-Prelim. Magpies v. Giants. All comments.
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Only real change in Nick Daicos and out Adams.
As mentioned before Adams would have played if this was the GF.
Keep him cherry ripe i say.
Ill maybe try Noble as sub and bring in Ginny to start on the int.
Apart from barring anymore set backs at training team is unchanged.
Theres training on today but what about the other days this week.
Still think the Pies will control the game better and win by 15 points.
Be tight early on.
Weather is a dry deck and a cooler 16 degrees light breezes.
As mentioned before Adams would have played if this was the GF.
Keep him cherry ripe i say.
Ill maybe try Noble as sub and bring in Ginny to start on the int.
Apart from barring anymore set backs at training team is unchanged.
Theres training on today but what about the other days this week.
Still think the Pies will control the game better and win by 15 points.
Be tight early on.
Weather is a dry deck and a cooler 16 degrees light breezes.
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To be fair I’m not sure our recent formline looks any more impressive. Our best win in that same period was against Port; otherwise some big wins against Gold Coast, Fremantle and Essendon, narrower victories over the Bulldogs, Geelong and Melbourne, and we all know the rest about our late-season form slump.piffdog wrote:Media will have you believe they’re a u stoppable force bound for a maiden flag - but I suppose that happens to the remaining teams this time of year.
Just looking back at their form over the last couple months.
Rd16 - squeezed past Melbourne in Alice Springs
Rd17 - beat the Hawks at home
Rd18 - beat the crows away
Rd19 - beat the suns at home
Rd20 - squeezed past the Dogs at Ballarat
Rd21 - lost to the Swans at home
Rd22 - belted by the power away
Rd23 - flogged the bombers
Rd24 - beat the blues at Marvel
Elimination - beat the saints away
Semi - beat the power away
There’s some reasonable wins in there, but there’s also a few gimmies. I’d argue the blues were due a loss with finals sewn up and we all know how the power have run out of steam come finals.
That said, winning form is good form and they do have some excellent individual players who are playing well. I don’t think it will be a cake walk, but they also don’t just give flags away either.
I feel more comfortable looking at the finals in isolation. On that count, we’ve done what we needed to do so far. And I think it’s fair to say that our best is better than the Giants’ best. But I fully expect that we’ll have to fight hard to win this.
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Exactly and these Orange critters are under Kingsley playing a real team game
We have and can play team game and much better -under Fly we’ve had two seasons to get it right
Don’t expect a walkover (be nice tho) but a fairly tough hit out to get hard for the Big Dance
We have and can play team game and much better -under Fly we’ve had two seasons to get it right
Don’t expect a walkover (be nice tho) but a fairly tough hit out to get hard for the Big Dance
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If we play as the best version of ourselves, we have a good chance of winning but we have to take into consideration that they will also be fired up play at their best. Ding dong battle but if we are to win the flag, we obviously have to win this. I’m quietly confident that we can win providing we play our best football, kick straight, run and mount maximum pressure on their ball carriers. Going to be a nail biter for 4 quarters. We win this, I reckon we are a 60-40 chance to win the flag. We are the best team out of the other two.
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lazzadesilva wrote:If we play as the best version of ourselves, we have a good chance of winning but we have to take into consideration that they will also be fired up play at their best. Ding dong battle but if we are to win the flag, we obviously have to win this. I’m quietly confident that we can win providing we play our best football, kick straight, run and mount maximum pressure on their ball carriers. Going to be a nail biter for 4 quarters. We win this, I reckon we are a 60-40 chance to win the flag. We are the best team out of the other two.
Comrade, GWS beat an injury riddled, out of form Port, but Giants tired out last qtr, Port missed easy goals like the Deees did. We have had 15 days rest, to Giants 5 days, that is the key for me. ! We are fresh as daisies, raring to go plus the massive Magpie army, roaring us on . Im also quiely confident, but still reckon Woods by 20+ points, its Flys 50th Birthday, our lads wont let him down.
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Agree - Giants have been on the road for the last 3 weeks - it will take its toll at some stage, hopefully this Friday.Piesnchess wrote:lazzadesilva wrote:If we play as the best version of ourselves, we have a good chance of winning but we have to take into consideration that they will also be fired up play at their best. Ding dong battle but if we are to win the flag, we obviously have to win this. I’m quietly confident that we can win providing we play our best football, kick straight, run and mount maximum pressure on their ball carriers. Going to be a nail biter for 4 quarters. We win this, I reckon we are a 60-40 chance to win the flag. We are the best team out of the other two.
Comrade, GWS beat an injury riddled, out of form Port, but Giants tired out last qtr, Port missed easy goals like the Deees did. We have had 15 days rest, to Giants 5 days, that is the key for me. ! We are fresh as daisies, raring to go plus the massive Magpie army, roaring us on . Im also quiely confident, but still reckon Woods by 20+ points, its Flys 50th Birthday, our lads wont let him down.
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Yeah, he hasn't kicked 5 in 174 games so I guess he is somewhat overdue.90 nice wrote:I’m thinking McStay Cameron these types even Cox are well over due to kick a bag.
McStay in particular
He is well overdue for a 5 goal game
He has kicked 4 a few times. If he kicks 4 on Friday night I'd reckon we win.
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I reiterate what I posted before:
If we win, it will be the efficacy of our defence as a team- really making it hard for GWS to surge and score and punish Giants on the rebound.
McCreery will need to lock down Whitfield; Mihocek or McStay must contest ferociously with Sam Taylor; Bobby Hill must give Iden the runaround...
The brilliance of Tom Green, Coniglio and Kelly must be matched, our exceeded, by De Goey, Pendles, Mitchell, Crisp, Sidebottom and the Macedonian Marvel's boys...
I think Pendles will be set to negate either Coniglio or Kelly; they simply cannot be allowed to run amok as they did against Port Power
Naturally, it will be a tough battle- we are either Premiership quality, or we are not- this Friday will determine if we are worthy of playing off...
If we win, it will be the efficacy of our defence as a team- really making it hard for GWS to surge and score and punish Giants on the rebound.
McCreery will need to lock down Whitfield; Mihocek or McStay must contest ferociously with Sam Taylor; Bobby Hill must give Iden the runaround...
The brilliance of Tom Green, Coniglio and Kelly must be matched, our exceeded, by De Goey, Pendles, Mitchell, Crisp, Sidebottom and the Macedonian Marvel's boys...
I think Pendles will be set to negate either Coniglio or Kelly; they simply cannot be allowed to run amok as they did against Port Power
Naturally, it will be a tough battle- we are either Premiership quality, or we are not- this Friday will determine if we are worthy of playing off...
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For me, the reference match should be the 2022 prelim against the swans. If we turn up with the same never say die attitude and fight until the last kick after the siren we should be in a good place.
I’m hoping our players keep the aggression in check and we have no reports and players in jeopardy for the GF. I’m expecting our players to get in a few scuffles with Toby Greene and we know his attitude. I don’t want to face Brisbane or Carlton with our players rubbed out.
I’m hoping our players keep the aggression in check and we have no reports and players in jeopardy for the GF. I’m expecting our players to get in a few scuffles with Toby Greene and we know his attitude. I don’t want to face Brisbane or Carlton with our players rubbed out.
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We would want to start better than we did against the Swans last year.The Black and White Lion wrote:For me, the reference match should be the 2022 prelim against the swans. If we turn up with the same never say die attitude and fight until the last kick after the siren we should be in a good place.
I’m hoping our players keep the aggression in check and we have no reports and players in jeopardy for the GF. I’m expecting our players to get in a few scuffles with Toby Greene and we know his attitude. I don’t want to face Brisbane or Carlton with our players rubbed out.
Also, Bruzza had better make sure that he does not leave the ground when he smothers
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