95-year-old woman tasered at nursing home

[stui magpie]

You're actually both right.

Tazers are a non lethal option with a lower threshold of use than a firearm. You cannot write overly prescriptive rules encompassing every possible situation as there are just too many variables. You provide a framework and guidelines, which they would already have, and training and then rely on individual judgement in a specific situation. With Body cams and the tazers also have their own camera which is activated when it's armed and ready to fire, investigators have had evidence to examine to determine if an officer has acted outside the guidelines.

[Bruce Gonsalves]

The dipsh1t copper should be sacked and charged. No excuses for the cop's behaviour.

The woman was 95!!!! Think about it!!

[pietillidie]

I've stopped monster lace monitors that've escaped from biting me and climbing up my leg in an enclosed space with a broom! Surely much harder to control than a rampaging 95-year old!

Seriously, though, it seems extreme but you need much more context to judge. People do all kinds of unfortunate things in the wrong set of circumstances, and mistakes happen even when people are diligent. We don't know how good his information was, other signals he picked up, distracting elements, his state of mind leading into the incident, etc. The way humans react is not easily commented on from at a distance, nor easily controlled under pressure. Is there footage yet? I'd be holding fire, so to speak, while awaiting more info.

[think positive]

You're actually both right.

Tazers are a non lethal option with a lower threshold of use than a firearm. You cannot write overly prescriptive rules encompassing every possible situation as there are just too many variables. You provide a framework and guidelines, which they would already have, and training and then rely on individual judgement in a specific situation. With Body cams and the tazers also have their own camera which is activated when it's armed and ready to fire, investigators have had evidence to examine to determine if an officer has acted outside the guidelines.

nope im right hes completely wrong
and he doesnt care

the taser should not have been used on a 95 year old with a walker, no ifs no buts,

but tasers are a better option than guns a lot of times, though maybe not, a few less **** head thieves on the street is not a bad thang!

[think positive]

I've stopped monster lace monitors that've escaped from biting me and climbing up my leg in an enclosed space with a broom! Surely much harder to control than a rampaging 95-year old!

Seriously, though, it seems extreme but you need much more context to judge. People do all kinds of unfortunate things in the wrong set of circumstances, and mistakes happen even when people are diligent. We don't know how good his information was, other signals he picked up, distracting elements, his state of mind leading into the incident, etc. The way humans react is not easily commented on from at a distance, nor easily controlled under pressure. Is there footage yet? I'd be holding fire, so to speak, while awaiting more info.

did you get a pic of the lizard, now that would be something


no, they aint showing the footage, which is damning in its self!

[think positive]

Shoulda used the taser on the protesters today, selfish bastards, they gave no idea who they disrupted, disgusting

Not the way to get people to join the movement

[stui magpie]

^

Id call them Disruptors rather than protesters. Protesters tend to march along streets with a permit, Disruptors aim to cause maximum disruption to ordinary people trying to go about their lives in the deluded belief that it will somehow sway them toward their cause. Deluded zealot imbeciles.

[David]

Nowland passed away today, and the police officer has been charged with recklessly causing grievous bodily harm. Not sure why it's not manslaughter.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -care-home

Not unlike the guy who killed George Floyd, this officer has priors, too:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw ... 5dadu.html

[stui magpie]

^

The charges were layed before she died, they may be upgraded now.

[stui magpie]

Seems like the cop is in deep shit after some analysis of the body cam footage cam out.

Apparently there was 2 Police and 2 Ambos there, trying to talk her down. She got out of her chair and started walking toward Police holding the knife. One officer put on slash proof gloves and was prepared to try to take the knife and the other allegedly said something like "Ah, bugger it" and shot her with the Taser.

How do Tasers work and what are the rules in NSW.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/what ... 5daun.html

To keep David happy,

Unless in exceptional circumstances, police guidelines hold that Tasers shouldn’t be used against people who are elderly, handcuffed, pregnant, disabled or have a small body mass (including children). The same rules apply for people who are running away or driving.

Police are only supposed to fire a Taser to protect human life or protect themselves from violent confrontation, risk of bodily harm and dangerous animals.

More in the article linked.

[partypie]

Apparently the nursing home in question whilst currently passing national standards has not met them on more than one occasion in the past few years. No, she shouldn’t have been tasred, but maybe that situation shouldn’t have arisen in the first place if she was being looked after competently.

[think positive]

I agree,most nursing homes havea dementia ward, with special equipment, cant see how steak knives are even in the ward.

[David]

This case is being heard in court at the moment:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... ial-ntwnfb

[think positive]

Gees. She had the knives for 2 hours, walking into various rooms, in the middle of the night, if you had a parent there how fricken scary is that? The staff need a huge evaluation. How did she get the knives?

And he looks like a dough boy. He waited 2 min and said bugger it as she moved her walking frame towards her? Manslaughter.

[Skids]

If you're 34 and can't disarm a 95 year old lady with a walking frame, you should never have put on a police uniform.