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Pies4shaw wrote:Can't possibly survive this debacle, you wouldn't think.
Well, it took him another couple of weeks to accept the obvious but he hasn't survived that debacle: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... torrid-run
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K wrote:Root ended up with 153. Media report it was his 12th 150+ score in Tests, taking him past Alistair Cook for most 150+ scores for England.


"Not that Root was without a bit of luck, dropped by the keeper when on 34, not long after he appeared to get an edge to a Jason Holder delivery that West Indies captain Kraigg Brathwaite opted not to review.
...

Root has scored more than 2,000 runs since the start of 2021, nearly double the next best haul, and has made eight centuries, his only relatively lean patch coming in a losing Ashes series in Australia."


(Reuters)

[Of course, the best batsman in the world, Kane Williamson, has been mostly missing injured...]
Giving up the captaincy may help Root's batting. Of course he's dominated since 2021 (with the best batsman in the world, Kane Williamson, mostly missing injured). But before that he had some lean years. Mark Nicholas reckoned that was just 'cos of the burden of captaincy.

Boycott reckons he's "better off without the captaincy": "The talent around Root has not been of the same quality. No matter how well he went, he could not bat for the rest of the side.

Many of the batters lacked basic technique.
Some have no patience and their concentration span is limited. Judgment around off stump, which is so crucial, often finds them out. On top of that, some keep making the same mistakes.

The bowling is up in the air, with the two fast bowlers Jofra Archer and Mark Wood injured. Our new seamer Ollie Robinson is unfit and injury-prone and only seems to be good in English conditions." (Telegraph, London)
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... 95-cricket
England have slumped to their worst Test rating for more than a quarter of a century, dropping to No 6 in the ICC rankings after winning just one of their last 17 matches. Their current tally of 88 ranking points is their lowest since 1995 and leaves them sandwiched between Pakistan, who are now fifth on the list, and Sri Lanka. ....

Ben Stokes, who recently replaced Joe Root as England’s Test captain, admitted on Tuesday that he was taking over a team at a low ebb. “What we can do is say there’s only one way to go from here, which is up,” he said. “We know we’ve not played to the standard we know we can. It’s about understanding that and then saying: ‘What can we do to fix it?’ I’m understanding that things don’t just happen overnight. I can’t expect it to just click and all of a sudden we’re No 1 in a year’s time.”
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Heading into a series against NZ next month. With India and SAF also touring the UK over their summer.

94 tests between England & NZ have seen the black caps only win on 8 (4 in NZ & 4 in England) occasions.

The battle for the Astle-Atherton trophy has as much appeal as a kangaroos v wiggles round 21 clash in Tasmania... who wins and really, who cares?

Australia paying $1.83 to win the ashes next year is becoming a bit of a term deposit for me, just adding a few bucks every pay day ;)
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Joe Root was favourite with the bookies for Man of the Match pre-Test (NZ v England, 2nd Test, Basin Reserve, Wellington). :o

He's lived up to it, reaching 101* just before stumps (2 runs to deep square leg on the final ball)...

But he may have competition from Brook, 184* (169). Brook sounds like a Travis Head type. A thumper. Can he/they do it on bowlers' pitches?

Starting at 3/21, Brook and Root shared an unbroken 294-run partnership.
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Good match so far for Rooty:

153* (224), ten 4s, three 6s,
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1/39 (12) [opener Latham lbw]
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4 catches.
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Good and bad to end:

Almost run-a-ball almost-century
95 (113), eight 4s, three 6s...
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was involved in the run out of Brook for a diamond duck. :o
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"248 Runs by Joe Root in this Test match, the second-highest aggregate for an England batter in a losing cause. Herbert Sutcliffe scored 303 runs (176 and 127) against Australia during their 81-run defeat in Melbourne in 1925."

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^ Ridiculous that he wasn't named player of the match in the most recent Test. He was the best batsmen in that game by miles.
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Another unbeaten century from Root to start this Ashes series.

As commentators said, he's scored much harder Test centuries than this. How can Oz get him out when the pitches are rigged to be so flat?

Atherton reckons Root's the best English player of spin he's ever seen.
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Wow... Root!! Gobsmacked! :shock:

After 15 minutes on day 4, KP said he'd already done his job. Wonder what Boland thought about being reverse ramped for 6 and 4 in consecutive balls.
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Loser!
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And on top of starring with the bat, Rooty is becoming very handy with his off-spin. Media say that's why England have gone with Tongue over Moeen in T2.


Stokes:

"What Joe showed last week is that his bowling has sort of been someone who you throw the ball to, or has given himself the ball, to bowl the odd over here and there and maybe try and get a breakthrough.

"But he's gone from strength to strength, and the more responsibility I've tried to give him with the ball I think has brought out another side of Joe.

"So it's great having someone like that who also averages 50 with the bat."



'Since snaring a career-best 5-8 (from 6.2 overs) against India on a raging spinner's pitch at Ahmedabad in February 2021, his 18 wickets from 29 Tests have come at an average of 55.44 runs, striking every 16 overs.

Over that same period, Lyon has been the most successful bowler in Test cricket with 96 wickets at 26.33 and a strike rate of 58.8. meaning he has proved almost twice as potent as his former Adelaide club cricket teammate and good friend, Root.'


(cricket.com.au)

You'd hope Lyon is "almost twice as potent"! 'Cos Root must be way more than twice as potent with the bat. He's averaged around 70 in the Bazball era. Don't think Lyon is averaging 35 in that time!
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Root is an ordinary bowler - Test average of 45. Mind you, that's higher than his Test batting average against Australia, which is 41.13 (and, of course, in Australia, where the ball occasionally assists a fast bowler, it's a poor 35.68).

The bowling comparison with Lyon is, of course, spurious. Lyon has 109 Ashes wickets. Root has 20.
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^

Cam Green should have gone back into the rooms and wrote 100 lines, "I will not get out to shit bowlers again".
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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