Post match. Pies win heart stopper !! - all comments

[foreigner]

Terrible game of football ... a real stinker.

We did our best to lose it, but in the end, Adelaide was just a bit too good at being bad.

Bottom line ... Pies won.

I'm looking forward to hearing the Crow supporters whinging about that mark they didn't get in the dying stages. Made up for the one they did get paid in front of goal earlier in the game that they dropped.

Mark? What mark?

And then there was that 12 point howler against Tarrant in the first quarter.

Should be a big week on 5AA

Gradually clawing our way back into the game showed a bit of character ... but some of those atrocious missed shots at goal and general all-round incompetence makes you wonder if maybe BOTH sides were tanking for draft picks and Adelaide "won".

Give the kids some credit, at least they held on for a win. And why don't U go play next week.

Please ... can we spare the tanking talk !!!

Please ... can we spare the premiership talk.

Can you light up for a change? Or are you the incorrigible pessimist.

[carcarly_pieland]

Although Wakes is never my fav player, I THANK him for having a hand on that footy at the dying seconds ...... if not..it could be the BIGGEST karma ever...(think Taz's goal after siren last yr)

well done Taz...easily BOG...a true leader...

that team tackle with Johno was the highlight of the night for me....

[Morrigu]

I bloody don't care how bad the standard was, how pitiful the umpires were - WE WON!!!

In that last few minutes I had nightmare flashes of that w*nker Carey kicking a goal out of his backside and them winning - thank you Tazza, Richie, Johnno and Wakes!!!

Have just watched the reply on Fox - how happy was Bucks - great to see!!
How good was it to see C1 and C2 standing side by side arm in arm singing the song - should encourage C3 to join the fold !!

GO PIES!!!

[PiesFan]

Firstly to just get the negative out of the way......... if we were playing any other team we would have lost. We played ok but our conversion was atrocious..... thankfully adelaide didnt give a stuff after quarter time.

But it's a win, and thats all that matters. Like MM said after the game, he doesnt care if we win ugly when we havent won in a while.

There have been some posters who have doubted whether the players have cared about our current bad patch. To those people, have a look at the reaction of our players at the final siren, particularly Johnno. Now if that is a bunch of players that dont care, then I'm Peter Daicos.

Taz was the difference today, what a great game. He did all the things we expected him to do (mark, present, kick goals), but today i saw him constantly give second and third efforts, crashing into players and creating contests even when it seemed as if he would not get a posession. He is a superstar. Wakelin wiped the floor with Carey, great performance. Lica played very very well, nice to see him back in form. Woey , Stretch, Johnno, Jimmy and C1 were all very good also. Woey was great in and under today, really showed some leadership in the middle. I also thought Cam cloke was great today, provided a strong contest.

Dids tried hard today, but he is really down on confidence. How can a player of his calibur miss a set for goal 15 metres out? Took a few more great marks, but we really need a spark from him

Lastly, the umpiring.... i've said it before but this year has to be the shittest umpiring i have ever seen. 11 - 1 free kicks in the first quarter says it all. Now i am not as one-eyed as some of our fellow supporters and i dont get that frustrated when a free is paid against us and we deserved it. But seriously....... this year has been absolute BS in terms of free kicks against us. Just off the top of my head

1./ Taz uses body on one occasion in F50 and goals. Does the exact same thing, and a free is awarded. Crows kick a goal afterwards.
2./ Richards contests at ruck, gives a bit of body work to the side of opposing ruckman that is clearly to the side of the player, free kick.
3./ Welsh holds the ball for about 0.2 seconds, paid a mark and goals
4./ Woewodin near the boundary line, on the ground, handballs it CLEARLY, called a throw! Unbelievable....

And those were just off the top of my head, there were many more. Half of those frees were complete BS, and some resulted in goals. As MM said, we if lost game it would have been a travesty. We didnt play well but we deserved to win more then they did. Great effort boys

[Blanch]

Deano, look at the time. I still can't sleep.

The pies looked like a team that hadn't won for a while. We couldn't put Adelaide away because of it. Anyone who watches that game and realistically thought we didn't deserve to win is kidding themselves. The application was there, the polish wasn't. Polish = Bux, Burns, Fraz, Lockyer, Holland, Presti etc....

Can we talk about Woey. We haven't had a woey thread for weeks. Should I mention the backing into marking contests, the relentless tackles that he held......haven't heard from the woey baggers for a while. Looks like they've been silenced (and not just this week).

Maybe we should talk about Ritchie Cole. He dominated at half back. He tackled hard, ran straight lines at the footy..great stuff.

I've touched on the one issue I thought was missing in previous weeks that would have really helped - TACKLING. When we hold our tackles, the pressure created allows us to get the upper hand. Tackling was good tonight.

In the chat Rhyce Shaw copped a hiding. After reviewing the game I didn't think he was that bad, not great but definitely not that bad. His tackle on Riccuito late in the game was a factor. He ran constantly to provide an option even though he wasn't utilised.

All in all, we shouldn't talk premierships on tonights performance but it's a step in the right direction.

[oxford-magpie]

We all know that it wasn't a great game,and our kicking was atrocious, but the point is the young guys who seem to be shouldering the load right now might just get a spark of confidence from the win. This will only help us while the top-line players are out.
It may have been ugly, but a wins a win! go pies!!

[Proud Pies]

Coming into this game

Adelaide were 14th on the Ladder with a percentage of 86.97%
Collingwood were 16th on the ladcder with a percentage of 73.11%

After the game:

Adelaide are 13th on the ladder with a percentage of 87.63%
Collingwood are 16th on the ladder with a percentage of 75.32%

Doesn't your percentage normally go down if you lose?

[London Dave]

Doesn't your percentage normally go down if you lose?

nope, and it is also possible for your % to drop it you win. If you lose 150 pts to 75 in rd 1, % is 50%, if you lose 100 to 90 in next round. % goes to 66%. Consider said case in reverse to see % dropping after a win from 200% to 151ish%

[favourites 2008]

nuff said bout the game - although it is good that the younger players had a win without the big guys -let them know they can do it without bucks, burns, fraser, holland etc.

but that umpiring was disgraceful

contender for worst ever

And we all owe Hird a big congratulations for highlighting what an absolute loser McClaren is - I was down on the boundary and some of the decisions he paid (or didn't) were unbelievable. HE doesn't deserve to umpire junior footy.

LoL How bout the throw he payed on woewodin wen it cleary wasn't plus it was out of bounds hahaha terriable.........but its ok cos we won

GO PIES - win witout the umpires

[Proud Pies]

Doesn't your percentage normally go down if you lose?

nope, and it is also possible for your % to drop it you win. If you lose 150 pts to 75 in rd 1, % is 50%, if you lose 100 to 90 in next round. % goes to 66%. Consider said case in reverse to see % dropping after a win from 200% to 151ish%

I think i understand

[punkologist]

There have been some posters who have doubted whether the players have cared about our current bad patch. To those people, have a look at the reaction of our players at the final siren, particularly Johnno. Now if that is a bunch of players that dont care, then I'm Peter Daicos.

damn right! I must admit, I've been one of those posters, and they proved me wrong. We were sitting next to the players race, It was incredibly emotional down there. Oh and I got a photo with burnsy!

I have to go. ill post more later, with pics

[Johnson#26]

Pie fans suffer to siren
22 May 2004 Herald Sun
Mark Stevens
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html

YOU can't blame the Collingwood cheer squad for all the aggro that's spilled over the fence in recent weeks.
For these are tough times to be a member of the black and white army. It's painful to watch them win and it's painful to watch them lose.

[Johnson#26]

Oh JESUS thoselast 2 minutes was scary...

Woey BOG for mine, 6-7 tackles and 20+ possies, what we want from this classy player.
Richard Cole has finally earnt his spot! great game from the youngster, at least 4 great tackles and decent run off the halfback line.

Woey had a great macth as did Cole who I thought really proved some-thing to the supporters. He showed good poise and composure. Well Played.

Although Wakes is never my fav player, I THANK him for having a hand on that footy at the dying seconds ...... if not..it could be the BIGGEST karma ever...(think Taz's goal after siren last yr)

well done Taz...easily BOG...a true leader...

that team tackle with Johno was the highlight of the night for me....

Wakes was the differance in the last quarter with 5 inspirational marks. Carey had barely no say on the contest.

As for that alst quarter mark, I was right on top of it and there was no way Hudson could claim that mark.

[sq3]

In any sport where you play against another team or individual you ONLY have to beat them on the scoreboard to win and get the points.

Winning can be great or ugly but if youw in you get the points - they all add up.

With any professional sports person confidence is one of the most important ingedients to their performance and winning builds or allows the regaining of some confidence.

All the Pies can and will take heart from the win.

Some people say 'if it was anyone else we would have lost' - the important thing here is that it was Adelaide and we did win.

We can all imagine what if - Didak had kicked straighter ?? or Pebbles held those grabs ??

Look at the positives - We won, Taz had a blinder and he is only showing a glimpse of his potential, Stretch is unbelievable for a kid to play as good as he is now (watch the ball up in the last quarter where he Clarke tapped it and Stretch got it off the ground), C1 and C2 are tough and always eyes on the ball - no fear, Woey - pure class, Wakes - the rock, Jimmy great delivery, Lica best foot delivery I have ever seen from him.

Pies can gain confidence and momentum and of all the what if's - What if we had the 6 senior players back in the team ????

Next week we face another challenge but probably with a few inclusions and we will improve.

[sherrife]

Can we talk about Woey. We haven't had a woey thread for weeks. Should I mention the backing into marking contests, the relentless tackles that he held......haven't heard from the woey baggers for a while. Looks like they've been silenced (and not just this week).

Spot on Blanch, he was an absolute star tonight and has been very solid the last 2-3 weeks.

Maybe we should talk about Ritchie Cole. He dominated at half back. He tackled hard, ran straight lines at the footy..great stuff.

Definitely a big improvement on his usual fumbling, he didn't exactly dominate but threw his body around and kudos to him for picking out targets and hitting them on the run out from half-back.

I've touched on the one issue I thought was missing in previous weeks that would have really helped - TACKLING. When we hold our tackles, the pressure created allows us to get the upper hand. Tackling was good tonight.

I mentioned this as well before, with Woey, Cole, Clement and Johnno leading the way last night... beautiful stuff to watch. As a fan I enjoy seeing one of our players absolutely crunch the opposition in a tackle more than a big mark.

In the chat Rhyce Shaw copped a hiding. After reviewing the game I didn't think he was that bad, not great but definitely not that bad. His tackle on Riccuito late in the game was a factor. He ran constantly to provide an option even though he wasn't utilised.

Look he tries, and when he is near the ball he is probably an average player with good pace. But the problem is he has no football brain and is almost never in the right place! Me and my friend have this running joke where we watch him whenever he is on the field, and it is amazing how rarely he gets within 30 metres of the ball! I really think he needs to be a loose tagging player because he doesn't know how to lead into space (as a wingman should), he doesn't go in the packs to get the ball, and he doesn't run full speed through packs (or around the outside for that matter)!

I just don't think he knows what he is doing! But he definitely tried hard last night and credit to him for that.[/quote]