Rugby players refuse to wear team’s pride guernsey

[David]

[think positive]

one of the reasons i really dont like all these this week and that week things. one of them pointed out its womens week, so why have the gay pride anyway?
just play sport!
as for pandering to religion, or other cultural reasons, back when i played netball in the dead of winter, we were not allowed to wear black leggings or trackies to keep warm, but muslims could. if they could we all should be able to.i just wore stockings!

it could have been avoided by not having special jumpers in the first place, do something else if you must.

100% all types of discrimination should be stamped out, but you dont necessarily have to wave a flag for every cause that comes up. just teach respect. how do we ever see each other as the same if we keep pointing out the differences?

[stui magpie]

Thanks for posting this David, I thought about it but didn't.

My understanding is that the club managed it badly and just sprung it on the players with no warning, resulting in the reaction. A bit more consultation and the players who withdrew from playing may have reacted differently, or maybe not.

Manly, A for effort, F for execution.

It really shouldn't be that hard but the NRL has a high population of Pacific Islanders whose cultural and religious beliefs aren't generally on the far end of progressive as far as lgbtqia+goes

[Skids]

People should have a choice, it's that simple really.

[eddiesmith]

It’s a fair point, wasn’t Khawaja allowed to wear a uniform different to his teammates without alcohol sponsorship? Manly could easily do the same given it’s not a major difference so not going to cause any clash issues.

[David]

They certainly could, but I guess league bureaucracy has dictated otherwise in this case.

[What'sinaname]

100% all types of discrimination should be stamped out, but you dont necessarily have to wave a flag for every cause that comes up. just teach respect. how do we ever see each other as the same if we keep pointing out the differences?

I have never thought of it this way, but forced inclusivity is a form of discrimination. So I think it's impossible to get to the point where you stamp out discrimination.

[stui magpie]

They certainly could, but I guess league bureaucracy has dictated otherwise in this case.

It's not the league though, it's the club. At least it seems so.

The NRL doesn't have a Pride round, most clubs don't have Pride jumpers. It seems Manly decided off their own bat to design the jumper as part of connecting with the demographic where they are based and failed to consult with players or consider that some may object. (or maybe they didn't consult because they anticipated they might object and wanted to back them into a corner.

Big fail to Manly up front, but as to the players I don't have a lot of sympathy for their stance. They're happy to promote gambling and alcohol through sponsorship on their jumpers, both of which would be considered Sins, yet choose this to object to.

[David]

[Skids]

No alcohol sponsors on Manly jumpers, Pepsi Max. They do have 'Points Bet' on there though.

The Bible doesn't call gambling a sin as such, although the Bible warns against the love of money and get-rich-quick schemes.

Most forms of Islam views gambling more as a 'misdemeanour' than a sin.

Gambling usually falls under the (Taazeer) offences and those have no specific penalty under the islamic Sharia, and their punishment is statutory one that differs from one country to another , according to the legislator view.

The inflicted penalty might be payment of fine or / and the imprisonment with minimum or maximum period, subject to the court discretion and recurrences of offence, if such recurrences were committed by the same accused/s with previous court conviction .

Gambling is often classified as misdemeanour in most countries.

Love how the Pies have Carlton Zero as a sponsor on the teams polos.

[David]

The Bible doesn't call gambling a sin as such, although the Bible warns against the love of money and get-rich-quick schemes.

Another reminder of how weird it is that so many US Christian evangelicals seem to think Donald Trump was the best thing since sliced bread...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ2L-R8NgrA

[Skids]

^

This is my favourite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5YU_spBw0

[roar]

The Bible doesn't call gambling a sin as such, although the Bible warns against the love of money and get-rich-quick schemes.

Another reminder of how weird it is that so many US Christian evangelicals seem to think Donald Trump was the best thing since sliced bread...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ2L-R8NgrA

Did you miss the Roe vs Wade kerfuffle? Trump has stacked the bench with God botherers.

[pietillidie]

Discrimination is a harm, not a religious right. Sexual preference on the other hand is a right. It's not a matter of conscience that we merely tolerate because prohibition is worse, which is an inherently offensive view.

The problem now is not a lack of religious freedom; on the contrary, it's that we've granted religion a special allowance to discriminate contrary to law for far too long, such as by allowing certain churches to discriminate against women.

Did I just read the Shrine pulled its rainbow lighting because bigots were vandalising it? That's offensive. Police the vandalising bigots, not the bloody rainbow lighting.

Here you go, it's worse than vandalism; it's standover thuggery:

Managers at the Shrine of Remembrance have cancelled plans to illuminate the landmark in rainbow colours after staff received threats and abuse ahead of an exhibition celebrating the service of LGBTQ veterans.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 5b5we.html

[watt price tully]

^ perhaps we need a NRL jersey with a religious bigot sign for members of the Pacific Islander community (and others who wish to join them)

Monty Python’s “Bruce Sketch” comes to mind: first rule Bruce, “no poofters”

https://chaser.com.au/general-news/terr ... y-rainbow/

https://www.theshovel.com.au/2022/07/26 ... nd-jersey/