Australian federal election 2022

[stui magpie]

Nah, Bananaby would be a bugger to get burning. You'd generate far less heat with than w8th the same weight of Red Gum

[Pies4shaw]

They're all just piss and wind - none of them would burn.

[stui magpie]

Methane is fairly flammable though.

[Dave The Man]

Labor should really win next weekend but I thought that last Election

Hope the Right Result this time

[Dave The Man]

https://twitter.com/JasonClareMP/status ... 6351818752

9 and 10 he was Spot On

[stui magpie]

Labor should really win next weekend but I thought that last Election

Hope the Right Result this time

If Morrison wins I don't know what it would prove other than Polls suck.

Labor is set up to win, I'm not sure how they can lose from here but there's still a few variables that may provide them some twitchy sphincters on Saturday night.

[eddiesmith]

https://twitter.com/JasonClareMP/status/1524326726351818752

9 and 10 he was Spot On

So you'd rather they didn't support companies and that those employees got fired? So what if companies ended up doing better, it was the certainty of job keeper that allowed them to keep their employees employed, because a lot of companies had started standing people down when the lockdowns began.

But it was a lot of hot air, money for sporting clubs is an area that is desperately lacking, it's a shame the Victorian Labor Government doesn't invest in it as much as the Federal Liberal government does. How are sports supposed to grow and encourage female participation when they're still operating out of club rooms built in the 80's with no room?

Also those non existent carparks do exist, one was very recently opened in Croydon and is about to start in Ringwood.

[stui magpie]

I read an article a week or so ago by Kennett, his theory was whoever won this election would lose the next one due to economic things he outlined in good detail.

I'll be retired before the next one, my care factor is decreasing massively. Same Dog, different leg action.

[Dave The Man]

https://twitter.com/JasonClareMP/status/1524326726351818752

9 and 10 he was Spot On

So you'd rather they didn't support companies and that those employees got fired? So what if companies ended up doing better, it was the certainty of job keeper that allowed them to keep their employees employed, because a lot of companies had started standing people down when the lockdowns began.

But it was a lot of hot air, money for sporting clubs is an area that is desperately lacking, it's a shame the Victorian Labor Government doesn't invest in it as much as the Federal Liberal government does. How are sports supposed to grow and encourage female participation when they're still operating out of club rooms built in the 80's with no room?

Also those non existent carparks do exist, one was very recently opened in Croydon and is about to start in Ringwood.

Most of the Money that Big Business got went in to the Bosses Pockets.

Gerry Harvey got in trouble for it

Hard to Invest in Victoria when Federal won't give them the Funding

[eddiesmith]

So you would have preferred they fired all their workers? Rightio then...

It's funny how the Labor cultists hate big business, yet fail to understand if those businesses don't turn profits, then the people on the bottom don't have jobs. So you can hate bosses making money all you like, but they won't be the ones to suffer first. The ALP for the workers by attacking their bosses, yeah doesn't make much sense.

Btw if by in trouble you mean those same big company haters on Twitter, I'm sure Gerry was shaking in his boots at them getting upset at him as majority of people just got in with life supporting his business.

The Feds invest plenty in Victoria, just because they won't sign a blank cheque to Andrews for an uncosted project he dreamt up with no planning and no clue what it'll cost, doesn't mean they won't give Victoria money. But Dan just won't accept anything that's not for his political wedge projects. Plenty of sporting clubs in Victoria benefitted from Federal Government investment and plenty more are still getting money from them in this campaign.

They are also still getting absolutely nothing from Dan...

[David]

Why it's pointless to vote "strategically":

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... ower-house

To continue with the example of two chasing candidates competing to defeat a leading candidate: there will be seats where one candidate is well clear of the other and isn’t troubled by the order of elimination (like Warringah in 2019). There will be other seats where both candidates are strong enough to beat the leader on preferences, so a vote for either will achieve that outcome. There may be races where the two candidates are in a close race for second place and only one will receive a strong enough flow of preferences to go on to win. And there may even be seats where there are more than three plausible contenders for the final two spots (Hughes in Sydney may be among those at this election).

How do you know which scenario may play out in your seat? You don’t, I don’t. I could make a list of seats that I think fall into each category, but I’m sure I would get some wrong. None of us have a crystal ball, and seat-level opinion polling is not accurate enough to be confident. I expect many people who previously voted Labor or Greens in conservative electorates will switch and vote for a viable independent, either because they prefer that candidate or would like to vote for someone they think can win. But voters should not feel pressured to switch from their preferred candidate because of a possible outcome which is quite unlikely, particularly if their preferred candidate has a genuine chance of winning.

We are lucky to live in a country where voters don’t have to weigh up which candidates are likely to win when deciding how they vote, as they do in the UK. Unintended outcomes can happen, but are rare enough and unpredictable enough not to change the advice I would give every voter: number the boxes in the order that you genuinely prefer.

[swoop42]

So you would have preferred they fired all their workers? Rightio then...

I would have preferred they be made to pay back the $20 billion they ended up not being entitled to when their revenue actually increased or didn't decrease by the eligible amount the Government set out during the pandemic.

For those not entitled to the money this in the end was nothing but middle class welfare, a complete rort and it's obvious it was the payoff for the Liberal base required by some Coalition members in order for them to support the large increase to Jobseeker.

If it's good enough for this Government to go after the poorest of the poor with their disastrous robodebt scheme which was targeting a fraction of this $20 billion then it should have been good enough for those business owners who weren't entitled to the taxpayer money they received.

Honestly I'm pretty floored that Labor hasn't made a bigger deal out of this because I'm sure plenty of undecided voters would have supported that $20 billion being clawed back and being used to provide much needed extra funding for our hospitals, PBS, schools and aged care facilities.

The ATO needs to be held to account here also as they have seemingly had their operations corrupted by political forces at play.

[eddiesmith]

Because the ALP relies just as much on big donations!

But you cannot change a policy after its been implemented, if they put those rules in place before it was passed then you could expect it, but then would that have deterred many businesses from doing it?

[What'sinaname]

https://www.anao.gov.au/work/performanc ... per-scheme

Not sure how they came up with $20bn in job keeper payments to big business. 10% of the total $89 billion went to all large businesses, so the max would be $8.9bn and that doesn't even consider those that were eligible.

https://www.anao.gov.au/work/performanc ... management

Haven't had a chance to go through the ANAO review of NBN to confirm / refute point number 10.

[Dave The Man]

So you would have preferred they fired all their workers? Rightio then...

It's funny how the Labor cultists hate big business, yet fail to understand if those businesses don't turn profits, then the people on the bottom don't have jobs. So you can hate bosses making money all you like, but they won't be the ones to suffer first. The ALP for the workers by attacking their bosses, yeah doesn't make much sense.

Btw if by in trouble you mean those same big company haters on Twitter, I'm sure Gerry was shaking in his boots at them getting upset at him as majority of people just got in with life supporting his business.

The Feds invest plenty in Victoria, just because they won't sign a blank cheque to Andrews for an uncosted project he dreamt up with no planning and no clue what it'll cost, doesn't mean they won't give Victoria money. But Dan just won't accept anything that's not for his political wedge projects. Plenty of sporting clubs in Victoria benefitted from Federal Government investment and plenty more are still getting money from them in this campaign.

They are also still getting absolutely nothing from Dan...

IF that Money Actually does go to Job Opening then that be Fine but I doubt all would and at least some go into the Top Nods Pockets