Scott Pendlebury (Silk)

[Mr Miyagi]

Got a feeling Pendles will be a player/assistant coach next year

[piedys]

I disagree. Give him a two year contract at 400K a year which will see out his career. We owe him that.

At what point does a player owe the club then? Scott NEVER has to work again. The last ex captain who held out was in 1986 and we know what Leigh said to Chocco: "this is the date, if not signed by then it's goodbye...."

Hasn't been seen in Hoddle Street since.

PS: Chocco was only 28 years old

That was different. Mark had a family to support and took the money to go to Brisbane. He'd slowed down by that stage anyway and the club hardly lost anything by letting him go. Pendlebury is different. He's twice the player Choco was. He's looked after his body and he's got two good years left in him. He's still our best starting mid despite losing a bit of his pace and Pendlebury has never relied on his pace in any case.

I seem to recall Williams pumping the ball down Brian Taylor's throat on a weekly basis, as he marched to 100 goals in 1986.

And did he not firstly negotiate with Richmond, which fell over, and the Bears then engaged him as an inaugural player, which all clubs were obliged to supply at least two, to get the Bears listed assembled quickly for 1987?

[inxs88]

At what point does a player owe the club then? Scott NEVER has to work again. The last ex captain who held out was in 1986 and we know what Leigh said to Chocco: "this is the date, if not signed by then it's goodbye...."

Hasn't been seen in Hoddle Street since.

PS: Chocco was only 28 years old

That was different. Mark had a family to support and took the money to go to Brisbane. He'd slowed down by that stage anyway and the club hardly lost anything by letting him go. Pendlebury is different. He's twice the player Choco was. He's looked after his body and he's got two good years left in him. He's still our best starting mid despite losing a bit of his pace and Pendlebury has never relied on his pace in any case.

I seem to recall Williams pumping the ball down Brian Taylor's throat on a weekly basis, as he marched to 100 goals in 1986.

And did he not firstly negotiate with Richmond, which fell over, and the Bears then engaged him as an inaugural player, which all clubs were obliged to supply at least two, to get the Bears listed assembled quickly for 1987?

Choco was poor in 1986 coming off his Copeland Year in 1985. It was the end of Lethal's first unofficial year after taking over from Bob Rose in round 4. Choco was holding out for more cash and did so over an inordinate amount of time eventually losing Lethal's patience. Toy Shaw then took over. It's important the Captain sets the tone off the field as well as on the field. If Pendles is good enough he shall EARN the second year

[magpieazza]

One year contract with option for 2 sounds ok

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

One year contract with option for 2 sounds ok

I'm relieved. I don't want him going anywhere. Performance based contract in the second year is about right. Get it done in the next few days.

[K]

Pie-supporting journo Niall is not happy:

Pendlebury’s pitch a bad look for him and Pies

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/pen ... 58l8u.html

"Usually an exceptional reader of the play, he’s completely misread the situation here. Collingwood is in strife.
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Yet, inexplicably, he’s chosen to air his wish for what sounded like a Sam Mitchell-style (at West Coast) coaching gig that - we presume, he didn’t really spell it out properly - would mean play first somewhere, then coach.
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Bob Murphy, the former Bulldogs skipper who won so many hearts through his graceful acceptance of his misfortune in missing the 2016 flag, is not an ex-footballer apt to line up current players without just cause.

But Murphy was both surprised and dismayed by Pendlebury’s willingness to put himself out to tender, calling his public pitch “pox”, and suggested that the captain had not shown leadership when his club badly needed him.
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One could argue that Collingwood’s salary cap issues derive, in part, from a culture that’s been more “me” than “we.”
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Today, however, the Collingwood Football Club is in a heap of bother. Pendlebury, normally so composed when all around him are flustered, has fumbled this time."

[5:11pm]

With all respect to Murphy it’s difficult to swallow his commentary on our clubs longest serving captain, 5 time best and fairest winner, 6 time all Australian, norm smith medalist, dual grand finalist, and premiership winner

He’s amongst the best to ever wear black and white, and deserves to be treated as such.

[piffdog]

With all respect to Murphy it’s difficult to swallow his commentary on our clubs longest serving captain, 5 time best and fairest winner, 6 time all Australian, norm smith medalist, dual grand finalist, and premiership winner

He’s amongst the best to ever wear black and white, and deserves to be treated as such.

While I agree he is a wonderful player - one of the very best ever, he's had a bad week or two. Could you imagine Joel Selwood, Luke Hodge (I know he went, but was courted), Buckley even or Max Gawn inviting other clubs to float them an offer?

His defence of Toby Greene was laughable and shows hes failed to read the room as well for someone as respected as he has been. You cant seriously suggest "theres nothing in it" when they guy will get weeks.

My only excuse for him is that the general vibe around the club is so poor, that an element of "every man for himself" has crept in and that he feels this was something he had to do. I think we could do with a fresh captain next year to match a new coach.

[MJ23]

^ Amazing how perceptions differ.
I couldn't GAF what he thinks of the Greene inccident - i mean I agree with him but if he had an alternate opinion how exactly does that impact his leadership and performance on field ?

The club and its supporters owe Scott far more than he ever could owe us. He is young in life with a young family - he wants to understand his future after playing the game and was clear in his mind what he was saying. cause it wasnt clear and created speculation he cleared it up. Hes currently in the last years of his playing life in a club not about to challenge anytime soon and has not been given clarity on what the club wants.

I hate how supporters treat our players...............

[5:11pm]

In the new era of professional football it is increasingly common to see great players finish their careers at expansion clubs, or to flag an interest in furthering their life after football within coaching or media circles.

Pendles has been open about his desire to enter the coaching ranks once his career is completed, and simply reiterated that desire when asked the question in a media conference. Whist the optics of the sound bite the media chose to run with were poor, he clarified the issue decisively and with the grace we have come to expect over his years of uncompromised service.

He’s an ornament to not only The Club, but the wider game in general.

[MJ23]

^ spot on

[piffdog]

^ Amazing how perceptions differ.
I couldn't GAF what he thinks of the Greene inccident - i mean I agree with him but if he had an alternate opinion how exactly does that impact his leadership and performance on field ?

The club and its supporters owe Scott far more than he ever could owe us. He is young in life with a young family - he wants to understand his future after playing the game and was clear in his mind what he was saying. cause it wasnt clear and created speculation he cleared it up. Hes currently in the last years of his playing life in a club not about to challenge anytime soon and has not been given clarity on what the club wants.

I hate how supporters treat our players...............

It doesn't impact his performance on field - you're right - that has been exemplary. I'm happy to acknolwedge that he's been a great leader - and no doubt still is. He's also entitled to his opinion, but I'm sure he is also aware that sometimes that wont be met with agreement form everyone.

Interestingly, if you ask most players they say that they owe the club more than the club owes them. He's probably been paid $10m (give or take) for the ~17 years he's been there. I would have thought the "owing" was pretty well balanced out for both parties. If you think the club owes him more - how much more?

I'm also not against the guy wanting to secure a couple more years elsewhere, but from a leadership perspective, I would have thought you could have kept that thought bubble between you, your manager and the other 17 teams who could be made aware of your "gettable-ness" discreetly.

I dont think this is poor treatment of a player (god knows other players get far worse on this forum). I'm happy to laud the guy, and I will be relieved when he signs and becomes etched as our best ever. If anything, its the standing I do hold him in which makes me a bit flat about the last couple weeks commentary.

In the end though - we can disagree respectfully.

[MJ23]

^ a premiership, games record as player and leader. Id suggest we owe him plenty more. Yes hes paid well but so are a heap of other players that dont take the leadership responsibility and then still play at an outstandingly high level.

Hes entitled to his opinion but not everyone can agree Im all good with. Suggesting he shouldn't have an opinion also suggests no player should ever have an opinion on anything - cause someone somewhere wont agree.

Hes asked a question about his future and he has no current contract - hes entitled to say what he thinks even if it includes coaching elsewhere. That he clarified for the sensitive should actually put the whole thing to bed. That he is a leader should only mean he has provided more to the club than just an elite player paid the same - it shouldnt hold his future at ransom.

again its funny how we can acknowledge hes been or best ever, an awesome leader and player but owe him nothing more than dollars - and we wonder why players leave

[piffdog]

I dont wonder why players leave... Not many do willingly. In fact not sure how many players leave the Pies because they don't "get more than the money they earn..."?

All good - maybe I'm just a terrible supporter. I'll have to find a way to live with myself.

Go Pies.

[i hate carlton]

Mark Williams, then collingwood captain, got the sack for less.