Brayden Maynard - Bruz

[Lazza]

Maynard has the most important attribute that this Collingwood team lacks, and that is physical toughness. We need him more than others for that very reason. However if he chooses to leave, we need to get a player with similar attributes. When the going got tough this season, he rose to the challenge.

[didick]

^Exactly. We would be an even whiter shade of boring beige without him. Even less watchable.

[Lazza]

True. You can replace most players with similar types but the hardest to replace are the tough ones. How I wished we had a Magro, Worthington, Gavin Brown, Ronnie Andrews, Millane or a Monkhorst in our team this year.

[MJ23]

^ agree with all of that - he is actually the proto type of the player you never want to lose however the other attribute thats even more important is that hes gotta want to stay

[piedys]

True. You can replace most players with similar types but the hardest to replace are the tough ones. How I wished we had a Magro, Worthington, Gavin Brown, Ronnie Andrews, Millane or a Monkhorst in our team this year.

Considering the way those blokes ran at the player and the ball back in the day, when AFL was a an all-in donnybrook waiting to erupt at any given moment, I hope you wouldn't expect them to spend much time on the field these days?

Look at suspensions to DeGoey, yet it's okay for sniper Kelly to split his head open with reprisal.
Oh, and Mihochek, recently suspended for the softest bump i've ever seen in my 40 years of watching this sport.

And Elliot cited for some sort of trip now, after the Dopers game?

[Pies2016]

While I would hate to see Maynard go anywhere, him moving on may yet be the circuit breaker this club needs to both add some strength to their trade / draft hand and also free up the cap for a ready made player down the spine.
I love the way Maynard goes about but he’s a flanker, albeit a very good one.
While Maynard himself would be hard to replace, it’s also nothing a cohesive back six and a hard working mid field couldn’t compensate for.
If someone offered us a pick around the low teens , I would think most would quickly adjust to a footy life without him.

Nope, I wouldn’t adjust! We need Maynard! I need Maynard!!!
Please stay Maynard!!!!!!

He is a heart and soul player. THAT is what this club needs more of.
I’ll take him any day over a low pick.

And by the way RE. Body language.
He’s pissed off. We all are! It’s been a shocker . I’d be annoyed if he wasn’t pissed off. This is the type of guy he is. Wears his heart on his sleeve.
Love him

I get where you’re coming from and in fact I posted elsewhere that we couldn’t afford to lose him. Then I started thinking about the number of clubs that lose a decent player and then end up coming out the winners on the back of what they received in return. Bombers are probably the most recent examples by losing Daniher, Saad and Fantasia. They improve up the ladder in 2021 without them and then end up with 8, 9, 10 in the draft. ( Cox, Perkins and Reid and there isn’t one bombers supporter who is now complaining )
GWS got multiple picks for Cameron ( albeit Maynard is no Cameron ) and it will set them up for years. They’re still playing finals this year without him.
I still hope Maynard stays but I put forward a possibility of what the club may be thinking rather than necessarily myself.
It also up to the mindset of the individual. IF he wants out, how much do you fight it ?
For mine, if he was traded, it comes down to the return. The better the return, the more I could live with it.

[piffdog]

I'd hate to see him go - but as others have said, he has to want to stay. Im interested in the potential fall out from a new coach too - perhaps not every player will warm to whoever it is, and that will likely result in more list movement not just this year, but next too at the request of the player - after what will inevitably be a pretty tough season 2022. What would be most disappointing is if he wants to go - because there have been plenty of times where I thought he was one of the more 'heart and soul' players.

Having said that, I thought Pendles was in thast camp too until this week. Hard to know how much was just a slip of the tongue and if in fact there was an element of truth to it all...??

Ultimately the club is bigger (or at least should be) than any one player (even Pendles and Maynard). I just hope we can arrive back at a point where the club itself is enough of an instutition that we (as supporters) dont have to pin our support to individual players...

[inxs88]

* If Crows want him then their pick 4 shall be valid currency
* If the Dees want him then Weideman and your second rounder thankyou

[RudeBoy]

I think it's easy to forget that a good team is made up, not just of good individual players, but a sense of camaraderie and esprit de corp. As an individual, we may be able to replace Maynard - after all, he's only a back flanker - but what we could lose is the on-field chemistry that a player of his ilk generates.

We can't afford to lose Maynard. Do that, then we are truly phucked.

[piedys]

I think it's easy to forget that a good team is made up, not just of good individual players, but a sense of camaraderie and esprit de corp.
As an individual, we may be able to replace Maynard - after all, he's only a back flanker - but what we could lose is the on-field chemistry that a player of his ilk generates.

We can't afford to lose Maynard. Do that, then we are truly phucked.

True; but we can't be holding guns to players heads to make them stay if they want to leave, for whatever reason.
If they aren't going to commit to their mates at the club, then adios.

We thought the world was going to end when Beams left in 2014.

[lihei]

We thought the world was going to end when Beams left in 2014.

It only ended with his return.

[MJ23]

^ you cant keep players that dont wanna stay. You cant "write off players" like this forum does at will and expect un-divided loyalty from those you want to keep.

I agree he is the type you want to keep.

He also has a heap of currency IF he wants to leave - this is the sort of player that could help you land a Ben king

[piedys]

We thought the world was going to end when Beams left in 2014.

It only ended with his return.

Valid point.

[Magpie Russ]

I am conflicted. That aggression is hard to find/replace.

I sense a change - that people realise we need to be bold. Play a long game. Perhaps.

Going back a few years - any talk of moving anyone but our 'whipping boys' came with talk of burning memberships.

Think most if not all of us know - Wright knows his way around a rebuild.
So - In Wright We Trust.

[RudeBoy]

I think it's easy to forget that a good team is made up, not just of good individual players, but a sense of camaraderie and esprit de corp.
As an individual, we may be able to replace Maynard - after all, he's only a back flanker - but what we could lose is the on-field chemistry that a player of his ilk generates.

We can't afford to lose Maynard. Do that, then we are truly phucked.

True; but we can't be holding guns to players heads to make them stay if they want to leave, for whatever reason.
If they aren't going to commit to their mates at the club, then adios.

We thought the world was going to end when Beams left in 2014.

That's no doubt true Dyso old son. I guess my point is that if our club is so devoid of spirit that a player like Maynard wants out, then we are well and truly phucked.