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The impeachment hearing in nutshell
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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firstly I thought we agreed we weren't going to mention your family?
secondly, when I grew up we didn't have smartphones, computers/games tablets or for even TVs for a while so I would read and I would read whatever was @hand.
That said, pardon the Krain splain but when you ask questions like ..."How many missiles does he need to bring the Donetsk rebel forces to the table, exactly?" or state that"Zeleniski was elected to get to the negotiating table ASAP" but fail to mention his anti-corruption promises, (one of which was to re-open the Black Ledger prosecutions) I think it is my duty to answer the question posed or present an alternate view to your one0sided statements.
for instance...
Only when I pressed you did you add that yes, the Rebels are in possession of advanced Russian tanks missiles, and troops. I'd add Russian Intel and Cyber-warfare units, funding and false flag attacks...
and yes he does need to get the Ukrainian the best deal he can and get some anti-corruption runs on the board (despite the President demanding he open 2 false inquiries that are riddled with fresh new corruption.
anyway, I will continue to pull you up when you are less than open with the facts, ...despite your vaunted Kyiv Street Cred!
That said..I feel Russia has a very real and legitimate claim to the Crimea and the West's failure to address those claims are the root of this conflict!
secondly, when I grew up we didn't have smartphones, computers/games tablets or for even TVs for a while so I would read and I would read whatever was @hand.
That said, pardon the Krain splain but when you ask questions like ..."How many missiles does he need to bring the Donetsk rebel forces to the table, exactly?" or state that"Zeleniski was elected to get to the negotiating table ASAP" but fail to mention his anti-corruption promises, (one of which was to re-open the Black Ledger prosecutions) I think it is my duty to answer the question posed or present an alternate view to your one0sided statements.
for instance...
Only when I pressed you did you add that yes, the Rebels are in possession of advanced Russian tanks missiles, and troops. I'd add Russian Intel and Cyber-warfare units, funding and false flag attacks...
and yes he does need to get the Ukrainian the best deal he can and get some anti-corruption runs on the board (despite the President demanding he open 2 false inquiries that are riddled with fresh new corruption.
anyway, I will continue to pull you up when you are less than open with the facts, ...despite your vaunted Kyiv Street Cred!
That said..I feel Russia has a very real and legitimate claim to the Crimea and the West's failure to address those claims are the root of this conflict!
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If what you say is true and there is nothing to hide and the Mueller report totally exonerates him, why did Trump refuse to release documents, why refuse to allow testimony from certain white-house staff, why the secrecy, where is the full report and why has Barr stored it away under lock and key and refused court orders to release the full unredacted report, even in secret?Wokko wrote:You're like Hiroo Onoda with this Russia conspiracy hoax, give it up.
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/18/rob ... ated-them/
Even in Barr's 4 page summary (of the 448-page report), Mueller specifically said he had been given advice from the State Department that the President couldn't be charged while he was in office and he was adhering to that advice by not bringing any charges. He also said...that President Trump was NOT exonerated!
He also went on to say...
"Over the course of my career, I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious," he said.
He added: "Much more needs to be done in order to protect against this intrusion, by the Russians but others as well."
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Trumps now done a double backflip to his original claim that Russia didn't hack the election ("Why would they?") and at the same time tries to blackmail President Monika Zeletsky to publically announce an investigation into the discredited Conspiracy theory that Ukrain was responsible.
The Real Donald Trump wrote:He looked me in the eye and told me very forcefully that he didn't hack the election, and I believe him!!! Why would Russia hack the election???
...(.and then a day later) "When I said "why would Russia hack the election what I meant was "why wouldn't Russia hack the election"?
FAKE NEWS Media! The Enemy of the People!
Even in Barr's 4 page summary (of the 448-page report), he informs us Mueller specifically said he had been given advice from the State Department that the President couldn't be charged while he was in office and he was adhering to that advice by not bringing any charges. He also said...that President Trump was NOT exonerated!
He also went on to say...
"Over the course of my career, I have seen a number of challenges to our democracy. The Russian government's effort to interfere in our election is among the most serious," he said.
He added: "Much more needs to be done in order to protect against this intrusion, by the Russians but others as well."
Trump now continues to claim Russia didn't hack the election (why would they) and at the same time tries to blackmail President Monika Zeletsky to publically announce an investigation into the discredited Conspiracy theory that Ukrain was responsible.
The Real Donald Trump wrote:He looked me in the eye and told me very forcefully that he didn't hack the election, and I believe him!!! Why would Russia hack the election???
...(.and then a day later) "When I said "why would Russia hack the election what I meant was "why wouldn't Russia hack the election"?
FAKE NEWS Media!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49100778
I could also add,...If Trump and Co were totally exonerated why do so many Trump Campagne members keep getting arrested charged and sentenced?
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t's difficult keeping an accurate running count of the number of Trump associates arrested, charged, convicted and jailed!Pies4shaw wrote:That last graphic is completely and absolutely wrong. Stone was charged. He is now found guilty and will shortly be sentenced.
...after more than 4 decades, Tricky Dick Nixon's "Official Dirty Trickster" is finally going to jail
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stui magpie wrote:Wake me when it's time to collect my $100
Rest assured on that day if Telecom somehow fails to send the reminder telegram to your pager I'll be around with a bucket of iced water
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Looks like yet another Never Trumper has unloaded on Drumpf.
Expect a Twittler Storm alledging every-where Tillotson went bad things follow.
Noting that he was the POS's hand-picked Appointee to head the State Department, in this case I can't argue that toss!
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/18/poli ... index.html
Expect a Twittler Storm alledging every-where Tillotson went bad things follow.
Noting that he was the POS's hand-picked Appointee to head the State Department, in this case I can't argue that toss!
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/18/poli ... index.html
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And yet another Never Trumper, who was conveniently sitting at the table when Sondland called the POS on his personal phone says he took notes as this breach of National Security conversation took place.
The Drumpf POS has denied any knowledge of this call!
With at least 2 of the 3 mobile TeleCo's in Kiev belonging to Russia no doubt Putin knows exactly what was said or if Trump was the person on the other end of this call!
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/18/poli ... index.html
David Holmes, the political adviser at the embassy, said he was taken aback both by the conversation he overheard and the woeful lack of operational security demonstrated by Sondland, the US ambassador to the European Union.
"This was an extremely distinctive experience in my foreign service career," Holmes said. "I've never seen anything like this, someone calling the President from a mobile phone at a restaurant, and then having a conversation of this level of candour, colourful language. There's just so much about the call that was so remarkable that I remember it vividly."
This week's schedule of public impeachment hearings
This week's schedule of public impeachment hearings
Holmes also provided lawmakers with more details about what happened after the US security aid money was released on September 11, saying there was a belief that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was going to follow through with a CNN interview to announce the investigations once the money was unfrozen.
"We worried that the hold was lifted after Zelensky potentially gave a commitment to do the interview," Holmes said.
"So you were concerned that Zelensky had already made the commitment in order to get the aid, get the meeting," asked House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, a Democrat from California.
"Yes," Holmes responded.
The Drumpf POS has denied any knowledge of this call!
With at least 2 of the 3 mobile TeleCo's in Kiev belonging to Russia no doubt Putin knows exactly what was said or if Trump was the person on the other end of this call!
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/18/poli ... index.html
David Holmes, the political adviser at the embassy, said he was taken aback both by the conversation he overheard and the woeful lack of operational security demonstrated by Sondland, the US ambassador to the European Union.
"This was an extremely distinctive experience in my foreign service career," Holmes said. "I've never seen anything like this, someone calling the President from a mobile phone at a restaurant, and then having a conversation of this level of candour, colourful language. There's just so much about the call that was so remarkable that I remember it vividly."
This week's schedule of public impeachment hearings
This week's schedule of public impeachment hearings
Holmes also provided lawmakers with more details about what happened after the US security aid money was released on September 11, saying there was a belief that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was going to follow through with a CNN interview to announce the investigations once the money was unfrozen.
"We worried that the hold was lifted after Zelensky potentially gave a commitment to do the interview," Holmes said.
"So you were concerned that Zelensky had already made the commitment in order to get the aid, get the meeting," asked House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff, a Democrat from California.
"Yes," Holmes responded.
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and as for the President, God bless his Heart!
Who else* could have a 55% lead in the N-Orleans polls and then lose 49% to 51%!
So desperate to win held 2 Jingoistic Drumpf Rallies where he beseeched his Clans saying...
“So, Trump took a loss. So you got to give me a big win, please. OK? OK?”
*Rhetorical question, Vice Pres 1/ Pence also hosted a rally as did POS Jnr!
https://democraticgovernors.org/news/go ... louisiana/
Who else* could have a 55% lead in the N-Orleans polls and then lose 49% to 51%!
So desperate to win held 2 Jingoistic Drumpf Rallies where he beseeched his Clans saying...
“So, Trump took a loss. So you got to give me a big win, please. OK? OK?”
*Rhetorical question, Vice Pres 1/ Pence also hosted a rally as did POS Jnr!
https://democraticgovernors.org/news/go ... louisiana/
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