The "Official Nick's BB" Trump Impeachment thread!
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Wokko
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Skids wrote:https://www.facebook.com/376776419037747/posts/2573250332723667/
I know this is probably selective editing to grab the worst of them but this is pretty representative of what is happening in the 'impeachment enquiry', a whole bunch of Democrats and their operatives telling us he should be impeached because he sucks.
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Why don't you care about Trump using Javelin missiles to dig dirt on Biden?
The count there is 16,000 dead since Russia invaded and with-holding that aid is putting 1,000's more at risk.
As for the Saudi Prince, the president of the US is a position powerful enough to curb some of the Princes more bloodthirsty tendencies but instead, the current one is an enabler hell-bent on taking the shackles of off this murderous thug! As long as Trump is power the plight of Yemen will only get worse! The CIA and other Intelligence Agencies around the world agree that MBS was responsible for the murder of journalist Khashoggi but trump gets up there and says "He said he didn't do, maybe he did, maybe he didn't, I don't know! Or pulling US troops out of Syria leaving the Kurds open to slaughter despite the assurances of protection from the US! Trump's justification is they didn't fight for us at Normandy so why should he (and America) care about the blood-stained sands bequeathed to them by arseholes that divided up the region at the end of the second world war. He forgets that the Kurds were the driving force behind defeating ISIS, an organisation born in US jails of Bagdad after Bush disbanded the Iraqi army. The House almost unanimously voted to censure Trump but the damage was done and innocents have died!
But you don't care about that because according to Noam Chomski the World has gone to hell in a hand-basket and bleating/caring about it will not change anything!! But your Pasty-faced mate, you know the one that did his level best to get this toe-rag of a man elected to a position where he could actively make the world a far a worse place, sits in a cell and that is something we should all get upset about! (pounds the table for effect)
Big Deal, measured against the of deaths that have occurred (and will continue to occur) as a result of Trump assuming the Oval office I couldn't care less about whatever fate befalls Assange!
https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/dad ... c94a4e176d
Btw I read Chomski 30 years ago.
He's still around and still has a lot to say, this clip is from 3 years ago before we began to discover the depth and breadth of the corruption of this narcissistic thin-skinned con-man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB54XxbgI0E
The count there is 16,000 dead since Russia invaded and with-holding that aid is putting 1,000's more at risk.
As for the Saudi Prince, the president of the US is a position powerful enough to curb some of the Princes more bloodthirsty tendencies but instead, the current one is an enabler hell-bent on taking the shackles of off this murderous thug! As long as Trump is power the plight of Yemen will only get worse! The CIA and other Intelligence Agencies around the world agree that MBS was responsible for the murder of journalist Khashoggi but trump gets up there and says "He said he didn't do, maybe he did, maybe he didn't, I don't know! Or pulling US troops out of Syria leaving the Kurds open to slaughter despite the assurances of protection from the US! Trump's justification is they didn't fight for us at Normandy so why should he (and America) care about the blood-stained sands bequeathed to them by arseholes that divided up the region at the end of the second world war. He forgets that the Kurds were the driving force behind defeating ISIS, an organisation born in US jails of Bagdad after Bush disbanded the Iraqi army. The House almost unanimously voted to censure Trump but the damage was done and innocents have died!
But you don't care about that because according to Noam Chomski the World has gone to hell in a hand-basket and bleating/caring about it will not change anything!! But your Pasty-faced mate, you know the one that did his level best to get this toe-rag of a man elected to a position where he could actively make the world a far a worse place, sits in a cell and that is something we should all get upset about! (pounds the table for effect)
Big Deal, measured against the of deaths that have occurred (and will continue to occur) as a result of Trump assuming the Oval office I couldn't care less about whatever fate befalls Assange!
https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/dad ... c94a4e176d
Btw I read Chomski 30 years ago.
He's still around and still has a lot to say, this clip is from 3 years ago before we began to discover the depth and breadth of the corruption of this narcissistic thin-skinned con-man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB54XxbgI0E
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^ not bad Dave.....Not bad at all.
I promised I would stay out of the Tav but your post was a good one.
Dont agree with everything but I can see a genuine understanding of all sides here rather than the CNN talking points many are armed with.
Well done.
I promised I would stay out of the Tav but your post was a good one.
Dont agree with everything but I can see a genuine understanding of all sides here rather than the CNN talking points many are armed with.
Well done.
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^I disagree. In effect, throwing far-left arguments at an institutional position is nothing more than a rhetorical deflection bomb because the vast majority of people in the discussion don't accept its assumptions. This means they're only going to use the argument as a rhetorical convenience for some other purpose; the last thing they have in mind is David's (and my own) improved imperial ethics.
Furthermore, the belief that 'shaking things up' will result in positive outcomes is not a rational position, but is rather a reflection of psychological style. Change is only as good as the change itself. Just what change is really being proposed here?
The actual change being proposed is an extreme protectionism, starting with the protection of multimillionaires from social and economic cost and international competition, with the magical hope that this will somehow extend to everyone else. Indeed, the very same far left arguments are now being deployed by the far right in a much more violent version of protectionism targeting foreigners and out groups. This unholy alliance can also be seen lurking in the shadows of the Brexit argument.
And it's not just happening at the political extremes. Given protectionism is a natural human inclination (no one wants life to be more difficult for themselves), and zero-sumism is the most common economic error getting around, this new protectionism is seeping into a much broader consciousness. The greatest danger to all of us as the empire declines is this sort of flailing, because it can very easily transmute into an much more dysfunctional panic.
People are not thinking straight if their version of 'shaking things up' includes unprecedented overt corruption and nepotism, dream tax cuts to multimillionaires, the scuppering of serious healthcare, the abandoning of allies including vulnerable peoples, radical efforts to warp election outcomes, an extreme unwinding of already deficient environmental protections, an executive unrestrained by custom (leading to a judiciary made in its image), the unleashing of the uncontrollable forces of trade war, and the creation of general societal instability
The challenge has always been for the far left to take its many reasonable ideas into the mainstream context, otherwise they're forever trapped somewhere between cult and bloody revolution, or what we see at the moment: erratic dabbling and flaky deference to the wrong people.
Furthermore, the belief that 'shaking things up' will result in positive outcomes is not a rational position, but is rather a reflection of psychological style. Change is only as good as the change itself. Just what change is really being proposed here?
The actual change being proposed is an extreme protectionism, starting with the protection of multimillionaires from social and economic cost and international competition, with the magical hope that this will somehow extend to everyone else. Indeed, the very same far left arguments are now being deployed by the far right in a much more violent version of protectionism targeting foreigners and out groups. This unholy alliance can also be seen lurking in the shadows of the Brexit argument.
And it's not just happening at the political extremes. Given protectionism is a natural human inclination (no one wants life to be more difficult for themselves), and zero-sumism is the most common economic error getting around, this new protectionism is seeping into a much broader consciousness. The greatest danger to all of us as the empire declines is this sort of flailing, because it can very easily transmute into an much more dysfunctional panic.
People are not thinking straight if their version of 'shaking things up' includes unprecedented overt corruption and nepotism, dream tax cuts to multimillionaires, the scuppering of serious healthcare, the abandoning of allies including vulnerable peoples, radical efforts to warp election outcomes, an extreme unwinding of already deficient environmental protections, an executive unrestrained by custom (leading to a judiciary made in its image), the unleashing of the uncontrollable forces of trade war, and the creation of general societal instability
The challenge has always been for the far left to take its many reasonable ideas into the mainstream context, otherwise they're forever trapped somewhere between cult and bloody revolution, or what we see at the moment: erratic dabbling and flaky deference to the wrong people.
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
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