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Knock knock!
Who's there?
The whistleblower!
The whistleblower who?
The whistle-blowers identity is protected by Law you moron!

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The live witness intimidation was something to behold. As I say, bring in the white coats.
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3.14159 wrote:Knock knock!
Who's there?
The whistleblower!
The whistleblower who?
The whistle-blowers identity is protected by Law!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoPT3Z6OSBY
Shame that actual whistleblowers like Manning and Snowden never received such protection from Democrats.
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pietillidie wrote:The live witness intimidation was something to behold. As I say, bring in the white coats.
Amazeballs. Has he gone too far (even Fox news suggest he's crossed the line). Keep it up Orangeman :D :wink:
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David wrote:Shame that actual whistleblowers like Manning and Snowden never received such protection from Democrats.
On a side note, have you been following the "Xinjiang Papers"? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... ments.html
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David wrote:
3.14159 wrote:Knock knock!
Who's there?
The whistleblower!
The whistleblower who?
The whistle-blowers identity is protected by Law!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoPT3Z6OSBY
Shame that actual whistleblowers like Manning and Snowden never received such protection from Democrats.
Obama pardoned Manning and Snowden fled the country before he released his information so I'm not sure how much protection the Dems can provide in Moscow!
In a similar vein, If your mate Assange had faced up to the allegations against him he would have had a VERY strong case that what Wikileaks was doing was no different to what every major paper in World has done and if he was found guilty so were the heads of these media outlets.
But alas and alack, he took the cowards way out and holed himself up in a foreign embassy till he tried to do a Faustian deal (to save his own skin) with the Trump campaign (Trump is famous for welching on agreements) that has forever besmirched his reputation! No sympathy, no forgiveness!

https://www.thejournal.ie/manning-snowd ... 3-Jan2017/
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Why should you (or anyone) give a toss about the travails of one pasty-faced Australian when there are thousands of babies being killed in Yeman at the hands of Crown Prince MBS and over 16,000 soldiers murdered in Russias war with Ukraine?

Or is selective empathy the sole provence of the Greens?
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You don’t get it, do you? Assange’s work has primarily revolved around exposing the lies that governments tell their citizens in order to make wars like that possible. The goal of extraditing and imprisoning Assange is not just to punish him in particular; it’s a message to anyone who would seek to expose US corruption to sit down, shut up and mind their own business, or else they’re next. That’s a huge victory for the war machine over the ordinary citizen. The fact that these global outrages are happening now is a symptom of that same power imbalance.

Speaking of the Greens, they have consistently spoken out against Saudi war crimes in Yemen. Do you know what your party’s policy is on Australia’s funding of that atrocity? Do you care?

https://newmatilda.com/2017/03/29/new-m ... y-garbage/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... n-yemen-un
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David wrote:You don’t get it, do you?
No David it's you doesn't get it!

Why should someone like me have to put up with insulting pejorative phrases and veiled accusations of "moral hypocrisy" when you do exactly that every time the names Assange Trump and Putin are used in the one sentence?

"nominal progressives lose their shit over Trump’s garden-variety political corruption"?

...and for what it's worth Trump's "garden-style corruption" is on a scale unmatched in US political history!
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3.14159 wrote:
David wrote:You don’t get it, do you?
No David it's you doesn't get it!

Why should someone like me have to put up with insulting pejorative phrases
and veiled accusations of "moral hypocrisy" when you do exactly that every time the names Assange Trump and Putin are used in the one sentence?

"nominal progressives lose their shit over Trump’s garden-variety political corruption"?

...and for what it's worth Trump's "garden-style corruption" is on a scale unmatched in 20-21 century western history!
I think you need to read more history then.
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David wrote: I think you need to read more history then.

Really?
What do you recommend, and please don't let it be anything to do with Julian Assange cos I'm sick of you losing your shit (and giving me a lecture) every time that blokes name is mentioned!

What happened to the plight of the Yemeni babies?

I haven't heard you expand on that but I guess if you really cared you might mention Trump providing the weapons to Clown Pounce MBS and the anti-Iranian rhetoric) that keeps their plight bubbling along!
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David wrote:
I think you need to read more history then.
Agreed. Trump doesn't even come close to the personal enrichment and political corruption of pretty much every regime since Kennedy.

Orange man bad isn't just a meme, as you can see we even have those people right here at Nicks. Trump could cure cancer and they'd be railing about how evil he is for putting oncologists out of work.

I can't understand such abject hatred towards a foreign political leader. I mean I have nothing but contempt for Trudeau and Adern but I wouldn't even think about them other than when they pop up in the news. Donald Trump elicits such an amazing level of frothing anger and hatred from neoliberals and most of the hard left. I just don't understand it.

I mean, the US is chugging along quite nicely with him in charge, he's drawn down on the foreign wars, cut some taxes and regulations and put in a couple of milquetoast conservative justices. He's been a bit of a disappointment to those of us hoping for a big shakeup, he's way too pro Israel and Saudi Arabia for the liking of isolationists and libertarians and the far right (media definition) has even gone off him a bit for baulking on the big immigration policies he promised.

I just don't understand the rage at all, as hilarious as it is to observe or give the occasional prod it's downright weird.
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