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Emma Husar settles BuzzFeed defamation case
https://www.theage.com.au/national/emma ... 52bnu.html
"The defamation battle between former federal Labor MP Emma Husar and online publisher BuzzFeed will not proceed to a trial after the parties reached an out-of-court settlement.
The dispute was among the most bitterly-fought defamation battles ever to be heard in the Federal Court, which is emerging as the forum of choice for high-profile plaintiffs including MPs and celebrities.
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At a preliminary hearing in February, presiding judge Steven Rares urged the parties to consider mediation, saying if the "complicated" and "expensive" case went to trial, "a lot of collateral damage might be done to a whole lot of people".
The parties in the defamation case had been engaged in settlement discussions since they attended a court-ordered mediation session last month."
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Emma Husar settles BuzzFeed defamation case
https://www.theage.com.au/national/emma ... 52bnu.html
"The defamation battle between former federal Labor MP Emma Husar and online publisher BuzzFeed will not proceed to a trial after the parties reached an out-of-court settlement.
The dispute was among the most bitterly-fought defamation battles ever to be heard in the Federal Court, which is emerging as the forum of choice for high-profile plaintiffs including MPs and celebrities.
...
At a preliminary hearing in February, presiding judge Steven Rares urged the parties to consider mediation, saying if the "complicated" and "expensive" case went to trial, "a lot of collateral damage might be done to a whole lot of people".
The parties in the defamation case had been engaged in settlement discussions since they attended a court-ordered mediation session last month."
Emma Husar's career is dead - it's right to hold an inquest
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 52buq.html
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 52buq.html
John Jarratt abandons defamation case against The Daily Telegraph
https://www.smh.com.au/national/john-ja ... 52hqw.html
"His defamation action against the newspaper and reporter Jonathon Moran was launched in the NSW Supreme Court in November 2018.
Days after the verdict, Jarratt's lawyer, Chris Murphy, said on Twitter the statement of claim was filed at that time pending resolution of the police charge.
Documents were then to be served on the defendants, and the matter was due to be mentioned in the Supreme Court on Friday.
But a court media spokesperson said the actor filed a notice of discontinuance on August 9."
https://www.smh.com.au/national/john-ja ... 52hqw.html
"His defamation action against the newspaper and reporter Jonathon Moran was launched in the NSW Supreme Court in November 2018.
Days after the verdict, Jarratt's lawyer, Chris Murphy, said on Twitter the statement of claim was filed at that time pending resolution of the police charge.
Documents were then to be served on the defendants, and the matter was due to be mentioned in the Supreme Court on Friday.
But a court media spokesperson said the actor filed a notice of discontinuance on August 9."
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This is just getting even more ridiculous....
'Ring girls' are out of Battle of Bendigo bout
The use of 'ring girls' to signal the start of a new round in a boxing match has been knocked for six at the 'Battle of Bendigo' on Saturday night.
Promoters of the fight between Jeff Horn and Michael Zerafa have sacked three women who were going to carry the traditional ring cards after protests from women's groups and local councillors.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/rin ... 52mpl.html
Perth vegan takes neighbours to court over barbecue smell
A Perth vegan has taken her neighbours all the way to the Supreme Court, demanding they stop smoking, bouncing balls and even cooking barbecues in their backyard.
Cilla Carden from Girrawheen, in Perth’s northern suburbs, said she is fed up with the smell of meat cooking on the barbecue next door. Ms Carden, a massage therapist, is also furious at cigarette smoke wafting into her yard and the sound of children playing with basketballs next door.
“It’s been devastating, it’s been turmoil, it’s been unrest, I haven't been able to sleep," she said.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/wes ... 52nc4.html
There's also some lunatic vegan trying to sue her neighbours for having BBQ's as she doesn't like the smell.
Years ago, these crackpots were either, ignored, or put into a padded cell where they belong.
'Ring girls' are out of Battle of Bendigo bout
The use of 'ring girls' to signal the start of a new round in a boxing match has been knocked for six at the 'Battle of Bendigo' on Saturday night.
Promoters of the fight between Jeff Horn and Michael Zerafa have sacked three women who were going to carry the traditional ring cards after protests from women's groups and local councillors.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/rin ... 52mpl.html
Perth vegan takes neighbours to court over barbecue smell
A Perth vegan has taken her neighbours all the way to the Supreme Court, demanding they stop smoking, bouncing balls and even cooking barbecues in their backyard.
Cilla Carden from Girrawheen, in Perth’s northern suburbs, said she is fed up with the smell of meat cooking on the barbecue next door. Ms Carden, a massage therapist, is also furious at cigarette smoke wafting into her yard and the sound of children playing with basketballs next door.
“It’s been devastating, it’s been turmoil, it’s been unrest, I haven't been able to sleep," she said.
https://www.watoday.com.au/national/wes ... 52nc4.html
There's also some lunatic vegan trying to sue her neighbours for having BBQ's as she doesn't like the smell.
Years ago, these crackpots were either, ignored, or put into a padded cell where they belong.
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Gees I hate 2nd hand smoke but that is just plain ridiculous!
You can do what you want in your own back yard, at least until whatever time the noise curfew is!
Though I can see my nutty new neighbor coming up with done bullshit, she has before we even move in!
Some people have too much time on their hands
You can do what you want in your own back yard, at least until whatever time the noise curfew is!
Though I can see my nutty new neighbor coming up with done bullshit, she has before we even move in!
Some people have too much time on their hands
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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I read about the Perth Vegan today and just laughed. Doesn't want the neighbors to BBQ, smoke or let their kids play outside as it affects her enjoyment of her back yard. Self centred imbecile.
On the Jarrett case, thats just the power of social media, I'm not sure what can be done about it.
I absolutely agree it's not right that someone should have their career impacted by accusations, particularly when they aren't even taken to court in some cases, but as soon as an allegation is announced, the social media pile on puts the ones who pay the bills under pressure, and they or advertisers blink.
A 24/7 news cycle that is desperate for content and resorts to referencing Social Media is also part of the problem.
On the Jarrett case, thats just the power of social media, I'm not sure what can be done about it.
I absolutely agree it's not right that someone should have their career impacted by accusations, particularly when they aren't even taken to court in some cases, but as soon as an allegation is announced, the social media pile on puts the ones who pay the bills under pressure, and they or advertisers blink.
A 24/7 news cycle that is desperate for content and resorts to referencing Social Media is also part of the problem.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Why it took me more than 20 years to tell my #MeToo story
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/opin ... -chiu.html
"A senior colleague advised us to hire lawyers, but we had no experience in how to do that, nor did we have Harvey’s deep pockets. We eventually found a small firm that agreed to represent us, but the imbalance of power between our lawyers and his lawyers led to us accepting an outcome we had not sought. We had wanted to report Harvey to his superiors; instead, we were pressured into signing a nondisclosure agreement that prevented us from speaking to family and friends, and made it extremely difficult to work with a therapist or a lawyer, or to aid a criminal investigation. Chillingly, it also required us to identify anyone we had already spoken to.
The negotiations were conducted under conditions of extreme duress: We were once kept at the office overnight, from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m., escorted to the bathroom, provided with the barest minimum of food and drink and not permitted pen and paper to keep notes. We were not even allowed to keep a copy of this most egregious of agreements: We had signed our lives away in a complex 30-page document that we could not refer to.
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Last month, 21 years after Harvey attempted to rape me, I finally stepped out of the shadows to allow the public to know my name. The day after I was interviewed on the “Today” show, Harvey denied my account and threatened to sue me, claiming we had a consensual “six-month physical relationship.” It isn’t true. But muddying the waters is a common tactic of abusers."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/opin ... -chiu.html
"A senior colleague advised us to hire lawyers, but we had no experience in how to do that, nor did we have Harvey’s deep pockets. We eventually found a small firm that agreed to represent us, but the imbalance of power between our lawyers and his lawyers led to us accepting an outcome we had not sought. We had wanted to report Harvey to his superiors; instead, we were pressured into signing a nondisclosure agreement that prevented us from speaking to family and friends, and made it extremely difficult to work with a therapist or a lawyer, or to aid a criminal investigation. Chillingly, it also required us to identify anyone we had already spoken to.
The negotiations were conducted under conditions of extreme duress: We were once kept at the office overnight, from 5 p.m. to 5 a.m., escorted to the bathroom, provided with the barest minimum of food and drink and not permitted pen and paper to keep notes. We were not even allowed to keep a copy of this most egregious of agreements: We had signed our lives away in a complex 30-page document that we could not refer to.
...
Last month, 21 years after Harvey attempted to rape me, I finally stepped out of the shadows to allow the public to know my name. The day after I was interviewed on the “Today” show, Harvey denied my account and threatened to sue me, claiming we had a consensual “six-month physical relationship.” It isn’t true. But muddying the waters is a common tactic of abusers."
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The left in the USA has shown a penchant for big, flashy, fake sexual assault claims to discredit and attack figures on the right (Kavanaugh, Trump). It's the boy who cried wolf, the media who are firmly Democrat (except Fox who are establishment Republican) have been made to look like fools by parades of fake and fraudulent claims.
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^ Is there any evidence that the Kavanaugh allegations were fake? Whether they should have been weaponised as a way to discredit his appointment is a fair question, but I've never seen any reason to think that Ford's allegation, at least, was actually spurious.
The same goes for many of the claims about Trump; accusations of political bias can only go so far, and, after all, we have him on tape more or less bragging about doing stuff like this (among other things). I think it's objectively likely, on the balance of evidence, that he was a serial sexual offender. So while the media should obviously exercise caution and not uncritically broadcast every allegation made without investigation, I also don't think it's right to ignore them or put them in the too-hard basket. Alleged crimes committed by the President in earlier life are absolutely newsworthy.
The same goes for many of the claims about Trump; accusations of political bias can only go so far, and, after all, we have him on tape more or less bragging about doing stuff like this (among other things). I think it's objectively likely, on the balance of evidence, that he was a serial sexual offender. So while the media should obviously exercise caution and not uncritically broadcast every allegation made without investigation, I also don't think it's right to ignore them or put them in the too-hard basket. Alleged crimes committed by the President in earlier life are absolutely newsworthy.
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