Glorifying the Villain

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The consequences of what Gaff did are terrible, however I don't believe for a second that he intended to injure Brayshaw - his immediate contrition was very compelling. He's copped his right whack in terms of weeks but even Brayshaw's brother speaks very highly of Gaff as an individual.

It was a perfect storm and what would've been a chest punch in a thousand other similar incidents became a serious assault. I'm jumping on board the 'no-punching' bandwagon. Those jumper punches and the like have to go lest we have to deal with this again, maybe even worse next time.
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think positive wrote:
glasseyevfx wrote:Our media outlets need to take a good hard look at themselves.

Barry Hall - renown for his thuggery = plumb media job
Wayne Carey - Lets stick his mug under Anthony Stevens nose every week
Gary Lyon - no reason to take him out of the public eye.

dead set - what sort of message are we sending

Don't care how many goals this lot have kicked we shouldn't be listening or looking at them.
This I agree with. And Leigh Matthews.
And Giaan Rooney. I still can't believe that with her history she has become a channel nine "personality".
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5 from the wing on debut wrote:
think positive wrote:
glasseyevfx wrote:Our media outlets need to take a good hard look at themselves.

Barry Hall - renown for his thuggery = plumb media job
Wayne Carey - Lets stick his mug under Anthony Stevens nose every week
Gary Lyon - no reason to take him out of the public eye.

dead set - what sort of message are we sending

Don't care how many goals this lot have kicked we shouldn't be listening or looking at them.
This I agree with. And Leigh Matthews.
And Giaan Rooney. I still can't believe that with her history she has become a channel nine "personality".
What did she do? Google turns up nothing!
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Yeah what did she do?
It doesn't matter what happens.... I just love this bloody club!
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She sat next to me on a flight from Melb to Sydney. very nice young lady. But what her role in this sad saga is has me stuffed. But then Nicole Livingstone is in charge of womens footy with no experience at management ot football.
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Redlight wrote:The consequences of what Gaff did are terrible, however I don't believe for a second that he intended to injure Brayshaw - his immediate contrition was very compelling. He's copped his right whack in terms of weeks but even Brayshaw's brother speaks very highly of Gaff as an individual.

It was a perfect storm and what would've been a chest punch in a thousand other similar incidents became a serious assault. I'm jumping on board the 'no-punching' bandwagon. Those jumper punches and the like have to go lest we have to deal with this again, maybe even worse next time.
I'm in agreement with you on this one. Players have been getting away with jumper punches lately not realising the consequences of their actions through mis-execution. A punch to the stomach can hurt, though not as severe obviously as a punch to the face. A blanket one match minimum ban by the AFL on any punch to the body would stop it. Players in Gaff's position can fend off their opponent in the way Dusty Martin does. That way neither player is hurt. Gaff has learned a very expensive lessen that could cost him a premiership medal. Isn't that punishment enough or do people want their pound of flesh, as in Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice?
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No, more likely as in Silence Of The Lambs. With a nice glass of chianti.
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Glasseye, nobody's 'glorifying' Gaff.

Have you never made a mistake or done the wrong thing ?
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You know, yeah, I've made mistakes but then I've never murdered anyone either.

I tell you what I used to work in a night club - I've seen a pregnant woman jump on the back of a bouncer a and then run to the local news to report it the next day. I've had blokes begging me to let them take a guy out the back because, "on my daughters eyes he's a pedo". But this BS isn't nearly line ball.

Gaff was being tagged in the game and he lost his cool. That's it; action, reaction now the consequences. He has had a sports punishment for a cowardly assault - the guy didn't expect it, its not in the rules.

Picture this, tomorrow he meets up with Brayshaw on the street and Brayshaw clocks him - the piece of ... goes down with the same injury, do you give him 8 weeks too, or does he line up for a court date like he should?

When I see Barry Hall, or Greg Williams on the front bar can you honestly say their past misdeeds aren't being 'Glorified'. You mark it - in ten years time the encounter will be treated as 'he was quite the lad'

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MatthewBoydFanClub wrote:
Redlight wrote:The consequences of what Gaff did are terrible, however I don't believe for a second that he intended to injure Brayshaw - his immediate contrition was very compelling. He's copped his right whack in terms of weeks but even Brayshaw's brother speaks very highly of Gaff as an individual.

It was a perfect storm and what would've been a chest punch in a thousand other similar incidents became a serious assault. I'm jumping on board the 'no-punching' bandwagon. Those jumper punches and the like have to go lest we have to deal with this again, maybe even worse next time.
I'm in agreement with you on this one. Players have been getting away with jumper punches lately not realising the consequences of their actions through mis-execution. A punch to the stomach can hurt, though not as severe obviously as a punch to the face. A blanket one match minimum ban by the AFL on any punch to the body would stop it. Players in Gaff's position can fend off their opponent in the way Dusty Martin does. That way neither player is hurt. Gaff has learned a very expensive lessen that could cost him a premiership medal. Isn't that punishment enough or do people want their pound of flesh, as in Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice?
The way Dusty does? With a jab to the throat? Wow that would be so much better!

The jumper punch is bullshit, Hawkins is a classic jumper puncher, another reason to detest him
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5 from the wing on debut wrote:No, more likely as in Silence Of The Lambs. With a nice glass of chianti.
And your cheap shoes!
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