More states legalize Pot 8) when for Oz?

K · Post by K » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:34 am

Skids wrote:...
So, it's the 11th of August <snip>
We,ve got Brisbane and Port at the G.... We could play freo on the moon and still win in the last round...with Elliot, Varoe, Moore, Reid and Faz sizzling inthe 2's... Treloar is champing at the bit and Aish is on his heels.... Hang on...... heeeeereeee'sss Daniel

We win the last 3 (15-7), finish 2nd or 3rd and Bobs ya uncle.... It's 10 weeks people... 10 weeks until the first final.

We will be healthy and ready, as per the plan

Is this another PUI, Skids (like http://magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.ph ... 25#1836025 )?

Culprit · Post by **Culprit** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:12 am

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-02/i ... de/9889304

Skids · Post by **Skids** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:20 pm

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:22 pm

Not much more.

Culprit · Post by **Culprit** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:31 pm

https://www.vox.com/cards/war-on-drugs- ... t-spending

We are not talking millions, we are not talking billions, we are talking trillions of dollars in the war on drugs.

Post by **stui magpie** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:06 pm

Every single culture in history seems to have found a way to alter the consciousness, whether it be brewing alcohol or using local fauna that either has a stimulant, depressant or psychedelic effect. Even Australian Aboriginals (Google pituri)

Given that history clearly shows the demand exists and always has, maybe it's time to stop a fight we can't win, tell the health 'experts' to just STFU , and legalise all drugs provided they're manufactured under controlled conditions, licensed and taxed? Destroy the black market by making it legal, apply appropriate health warnings, let people make their own decisions, use some of the revenue for research and health support and bank all the savings from the money we don't spend on the war against drugs?

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:53 pm

Pi · Post by Pi » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:41 pm

apparently there drugs everywhere...if you are one step ahead of legislation and taxation..

https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/qbee ... alian-bush

if you dont know what your doing most of the plants are toxic

http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/ ... us-plants/

Some of our plant laws are a bit absurd,
I have two large Oleander trees in my yard that could probably poison half the neighborhood, yet the police would walk past those and arrest me if I had one small marijuana plant.

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:02 am

Question for those who want to legalize marijuana ... are you happy to see this drug sold in supermarkets and convenience stores ? If not, is that because you accept that it is harmful when widely used ? If you do accept that it has harm, then why do you want to legalize it ?

If you believe that we can deter (but not eliminate) drink driving by enforcing stringent laws against it, why would such an approach not work with dope ? Is it possible that the problem with prohibiting marijuana is that we do not actually enforce the law against it, rather than the fact that it is too hard to do so ?

Post by **stui magpie** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:33 am

I'm not saying that I want to legalise drugs, my point above was simply that

Demand exists for drugs and always has.
Trying to eliminate supply (prohibition) is expensive and hasn't worked
Maybe controlling supply is the best option.

Dope could be sold in supermarkets next to cigarettes
Other drugs could be pharmacy only and some of those would require a prescription.

I don't particularly like that, but what we're currently doing doesn't work.

Pi · Post by Pi » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:19 am

There is a growing movement coming out of mainly ex-police officers who are of the opinion that the war on drugs has failed and more it is escalated the worse it gets, much like alcohol prohibition failed in the 1930's.

https://lawenforcementactionpartnership ... ug-policy/

http://ukleap.org/

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:42 am

Skids · Post by **Skids** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:35 pm

Meanwhile.... crooks make trillions, governments waste millions and it will never go away.

Legalize, regulate and Tax it now.

Mugwump · Post by **Mugwump** » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:37 pm

^ well, yes, that avoids all of the hard questions. Since this avoidance of a coherent argument seems to be winning the day, I understand why legalisers keep using it.

Facts and logic are always defenseless against prejudice.

K · Post by K » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:53 pm

Skids wrote:Canada legalises recreational cannabis use
...
Canadians will be able to buy and consume cannabis legally as early as this September

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44543286

This article claims the date is October 17:
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/canada-sets ... -marijuana

The BBC article has this pic:

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More states legalize Pot 8) when for Oz?

When will it be legal here?