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Mugwump wrote:No, not equating reform with revolution - Conservarives have often been in the vanguard of reform. Erasing important events from your nation's history is not reform, however. It is very very reminiscent of the formulation of 1984 - who controls the past controls the present, and who controls the preeent. Bottoms the future. etc. As I said, those who want to experiment with the future hate the past because the ordinary natural human attachment to it forms a kind of popular oppositional memory. In any event, the really key point remains the irrefutable one that the greatest influence on the successful look,feel and political nature of modern Australia is the British settlement commencing in1788. It takes a lot of propaganda to whitewash that reality. Fortunately the Australian people still seem attached to their real history.
That is really overstating it in my view & where the reactionaries get it all wrong. The section I've highlighted is gilding the lily just a smidgen & smacks of polemics. "The Australian people" indeed Mugwump :lol:
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What day did Russell Morris record "The Real Thing"?
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watt price tully wrote:
Mugwump wrote:No, not equating reform with revolution - Conservarives have often been in the vanguard of reform. Erasing important events from your nation's history is not reform, however. It is very very reminiscent of the formulation of 1984 - who controls the past controls the present, and who controls the preeent. Bottoms the future. etc. As I said, those who want to experiment with the future hate the past because the ordinary natural human attachment to it forms a kind of popular oppositional memory. In any event, the really key point remains the irrefutable one that the greatest influence on the successful look,feel and political nature of modern Australia is the British settlement commencing in1788. It takes a lot of propaganda to whitewash that reality. Fortunately the Australian people still seem attached to their real history.
That is really overstating it in my view & where the reactionaries get it all wrong. The section I've highlighted is gilding the lily just a smidgen & smacks of polemics. "The Australian people" indeed Mugwump :lol:
I'm sure it is overstating it in your view. Would you mind explaining the sneering last line in your post , though ? I would have thought it obvious that celebrations of Australia Day on 26 January are as enthusiastic today as ever.
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Mugwump wrote:
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Mugwump wrote:No, not equating reform with revolution - Conservarives have often been in the vanguard of reform. Erasing important events from your nation's history is not reform, however. It is very very reminiscent of the formulation of 1984 - who controls the past controls the present, and who controls the preeent. Bottoms the future. etc. As I said, those who want to experiment with the future hate the past because the ordinary natural human attachment to it forms a kind of popular oppositional memory. In any event, the really key point remains the irrefutable one that the greatest influence on the successful look,feel and political nature of modern Australia is the British settlement commencing in1788. It takes a lot of propaganda to whitewash that reality. Fortunately the Australian people still seem attached to their real history.
That is really overstating it in my view & where the reactionaries get it all wrong. The section I've highlighted is gilding the lily just a smidgen & smacks of polemics. "The Australian people" indeed Mugwump :lol:
I'm sure it is overstating it in your view. Would you mind explaining the sneering last line in your post , though ? I would have thought it obvious that celebrations of Australia Day on 26 January are as enthusiastic today as ever.
No sneering whatsoever & I'm surprised at ur interpretation of what I posted. It read to me as being a tad gradiose if not presumptuous as though you were speaking on behalf of the " people of Australia" - like a politician.

I was just waiting for you to drape yourself with the Australian flag 😜

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^ fair enough, thanks for explaining and yes I can see how it might have sounded. I bridled as I suspected you were questioning my australianness just because I live abroad. I can see that you were not. Thanks
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Mugwump wrote: As for being ruled by the Spanish, Morrigu, was it the tapas, the Rioja, the successive military coups or the Fascism that first attracted you ? :wink:.
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Pies4shaw wrote:What day did Russell Morris record "The Real Thing"?
Day? Molly spent months fiddling with that in the studio, including adding the Hitler Youth boys choir toward the end.

1 day is plenty, don't need months, thanks. :wink:
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This here's the wattle, the emblem of our land. You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand.


Forget the motherland..........


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Pies4shaw wrote:What day did Russell Morris record "The Real Thing"?
Long long long ago when he was oh so cute!
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