Gavin Brown Medal: We have a winner!

AN_Inkling · Post by **AN_Inkling** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:41 pm

Congrats to Pendles. Though Brown was stiff to miss out on the Lazarus award!

Cuthbert Collingwood · Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:42 pm

I'm working on two alternate leaderboards. I initially published them but had to pull them as I think I had an excel formula issue, but essentially they are:

1. After each players rating per round I have put a percentage figure, essentially I divided the 15 total votes (5+4+3+2+1) by the percentage of votes that they received. This means that your votes aren't wasted and if the 6th player only got a vote less than the 5th he still gets a share. Also it rewards a player for when they are a standout and the rest of the field is an even spread. Dane Swan gets a bit closer to Pendles this way and Williams goes up at the expense of Langdon.

2. Now this is the interesting one. A lot of people hate voting after bad losses, poor wins or just general meh-ness. They also hate that you give 54321 for a bad loss or a season defying win. This leaderboard factors in the disinterest in poor games and excitement about great ones by simply counting every vote as one vote. It means that Swanny smashing them in a great win gets a lot more votes than A solid midfield in an average loss.

I'm going to get these leaderboards up later in the finals series and we'll see which one matches the Copeland best and maybe use it next year so we can all make bets on the Copeland.

Next year I might do it differently and update the tally every month or so through the season, if no one objects too much - but judging the visits to this thread I could do a naked dance in here and no one would notice

Post by **Donny** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:03 pm

I like the month by month aggregate but that tends to 'colour' members' votes.

ie. A player is well in the lead so voters may look for others to vote for.

Cuthbert Collingwood · Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:27 pm

Yes that's a good point, I think bigfooty update theirs regularly so maybe it's a good reason not to do it.

Post by **Jezza** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:29 pm

Thanks for tallying the finals scores CC! The 5,4,3,2,1 system has worked beautifully since it was fully introduced in 2012 so I think that should be maintained for the foreseeable future.

Congrats to Scott Pendlebury on winning the GB Award!

Cuthbert Collingwood · Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:09 am

I'd never get rid of that system for voting, just want to experiment with other leaderboards, I think it might be a much more accurate gauge

Cuthbert Collingwood · Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:07 am

Check out the table of the 3 methods, which will be closest to the Copeland?

Albert Parker · Post by **Albert Parker** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:59 am

Thanks for your efforts CC.

Neil Appleby · Post by **Neil Appleby** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:54 pm

Hours of hard slog there Cuthbert and much appreciated by all of us. Thank you.

qldmagpie67 · Post by **qldmagpie67** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:40 am

CC thanks so much mate a great job and not a easy one I'm sure.
I think the top 3 no one could argue with think th Copeland voting will be very similar.
One thing I found interesting is the places below.
Sidey finished in front of Varcoe shows I think many have a hard on for Sidey firstly but secondly there were lots (including myself) who thought before the season started Varcoe would be a waste of a contract. I think he may have missed a lot of votes early until we all realised just how good Varcoe was going. I know early on if I thought he was a tie with like a Langdon I would give the votes to Langdon.
It's not a crack at Sidey he had a good season but he missed 6 games and when he came back from injury took him a couple weeks to get going again so that a third of the season missed and Varcoe missed how many games ?
I think the top 10 will be pretty close to th Copeland voting just a different mix is all.
Again thanks CC I like the month by month update personally and I think my vote should count for double as I do have the keys to the cellar and could invite you down for a snifter of cognac !!

Post by **Donny** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:25 pm

Excellent job, CC. Thanks.

thompsoc · Post by **thompsoc** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:21 pm

Mugwump wrote:
Cuthbert Collingwood wrote:Just thought I'd let everyone know that thompsoc voted for Blair twice (once for 4 votes I think). Good onya buddy, you don't let your personal feelings cloud your judgement. Cheers
Thompsoc, you've been hacked !

No I haven't been hacked I voted for him twice!
Gave him best on ground earlier in the year.
I always call it as I see it.
Still think he should go to New Zealand to star in the next hobbit movie.

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