It Ain't Over 'Till It's Over - WADA to Appeal.

Bucks5 · Post by **Bucks5** » Wed May 13, 2015 8:55 am

And how the Turd claimed that ASADA ignored their so called records which was a spreadsheet. Any wonder why?

regan is true fullback · Wed May 13, 2015 9:55 am

as a Collingwood supporter, i am mightily pleased that both our rivals for premierships 16 and 17 find themselves in such a mess, Carlton through it's short sighted stupidity over the years, and Essendon who thought that the quick fix could turn an average list into a contender.

If you make these mistakes, they come back to bite you in the bvm years later. Richmond is still paying for the Pitura swap, Swans are still paying for the Daniher fiasco. If you do something monumentally stupid, you accept your knocks, work twice as hard, and go back to doing something professional.

The other worry is that decent people get caught in the crossfire. Mick Malthouse is a premiership coach, as is Bomber Thompson. Sadly they both found themselves in the hornets nest, which puts their post football careers in grave jeopardy.

Woods · Post by **Woods** » Wed May 13, 2015 8:00 pm

Standby for tomorrow's press - KABOOM.

Edit: unless I'm ahead of myself.

Post by **stoliboy** » Wed May 13, 2015 10:31 pm

James Hird on AFL 360 (12 May 2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dfTE3vk64Y

Post by **Jezza** » Wed May 13, 2015 11:48 pm

Very satisfied to see WADA appealing the AFL's tribunal's findings! Now we will truly know whether the evidence against the 34 Essendon players and the relevant people behind the supplements program is solid enough to warrant such punishment and more importantly to ascertain what was going on at Windy Hill in 2011-2012.

With the AFL prejudiced by the whole saga, the findings on March 31 were never going to satisfy anyone outside of Essendon for obvious reasons. I doubt WADA wouldn't be appealing this if they didn't believe that they could prove Essendon's guilt in this whole matter. In the process it would be great to see others like Andrew Demetriou held to account for tipping off Essendon the night before this story broke on February 5 2013.

I personally thought that was the end of the matter but this is going to be an interesting period now and for anyone who's over this saga I say get over it! Instead of whining about it wouldn't you prefer to ascertain the truth of the matter here regardless if Essendon is guilty or not?

In regards to last night, Hird was pathetic on AFL 360. Gerard Whateley is one of the few sports journalists who asked the hard-hitting but necessary questions to Hird and he absolutely crumbled! Whateley's views on Hird and the supplements program certainly resonate with most of us I suspect.

ANNODAM · Post by **ANNODAM** » Thu May 14, 2015 10:04 am

Has Turd been under the knife or something?
His face looks like it has undergone a botox fix or plastic surgery of some sort, he looks fake & plasticky...
The top half of his neck is smooth & the bottom part is saggy & old...

Oh & he is an ugly mofo, thick as 2 planks too...

Golden Gordon · Post by **Golden Gordon** » Sat May 16, 2015 8:46 pm

Hird is delusional if he thinks the AFL Tribunal found the Essendon players innocent. Wrong. They simply said they didn't have enough evidence to hang them. But the WADA court of appeal has a much lower threshold of evidence required. Expect two year bans all round.

One final thing. Please Eddie McGuire. Stop defending Hird and Essendon. They are a disgrace. Protect our interests for a change!

Doc63 · Post by **Doc63** » Sun May 17, 2015 11:23 am

Great article by Tim Lane - hits the nail on the head.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/w ... h354d.html

Post by **Jezza** » Mon May 18, 2015 12:45 am

I'm not his biggest fan but that is an excellent article by Tim Lane.

The mere fact that so many people seem irritated by WADA rather than with Essendon speaks volumes of how many people think about the issue of performance enhancing drugs in sport in Australia. Why are so many afraid to explore the truth whether it's good or bad when this is a proper and necessary process that needs to take place?

The findings on March 31 did absolutely nothing to satisfy me that the right decision was made when it came to the Essendon 34 and by saying "I'm sick of the saga" or "the AFL should remove itself from WADA" you're inadvertently condoning what Essendon has done to its players in 2011-2012 and don't care about the future of Australian Rules Football in this country.

I'm embracing this appeal and if WADA cannot establish Essendon's guilt then they'll naturally be found not guilty on the basis of insufficient evidence but everyone knows deep down that the circumstantial evidence suggests that Essendon cheated the system but if key figures such as Dank or Charter are unwilling to cooperate again then I cannot see how this case will succeed unless the threshold for establishing guilt lowers for cases at the Court of Arbitration of Sport (CAS) where this case will be heard later in the year presumably.

Post by **Jezza** » Thu May 21, 2015 12:06 am

qldmagpie67 · Post by **qldmagpie67** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:58 pm

When I heard the news Young was being set to prosecute this matter I nearly choke in excitement.
This is wada's #1 attack dog. Never losses and knows the standards required to get a guilty verdict.
Was also responsible for ensuring records of those he had beaten were ex sponged from there relevant sports.
No Watson Brownlow no games recorded for fletcher no records at all of any player found guilty.
My gut is telling me the AFL & Essendon have poked the wrong lion here.
WADA seem hell bent on showing them both who is the biggest dog in the park.
Wouldn't be surprised to see WADA go for the maximum penalty of 2yrs and I doubt they would be open to any deals or back dating of any potential suspensions.
Interesting days ahead.
Also they want the case heard in Switzerland a long way from afl house.

Post by **Jezza** » Fri May 22, 2015 12:17 am

The case was either going to be heard in New York, Switzerland or Sydney but looks like Switzerland is going to be place where the court hearing will take place.

I suspect the Bombers are in big trouble now!

qldmagpie67 · Post by **qldmagpie67** » Fri May 22, 2015 10:42 pm

Jezza wrote:The case was either going to be heard in New York, Switzerland or Sydney but looks like Switzerland is going to be place where the court hearing will take place.

I suspect the Bombers are in big trouble now!

Exactly Jezza WADA are making a huge statement here
You will play this out on our terms with our people appointed on our home ground and to top it off you MUST prove you DIDNT take thymosin beta 4
Good luck with that having no records.
I wonder what Gill the dill is thinking right now on how to get a side together to replace them for the next 2 yrs

MagpieBat · Post by **MagpieBat** » Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:38 pm

Post by **Jezza** » Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:21 am

That's compelling evidence but why has this only been identified with two players?

I'm assuming not all 34 samples have been tested yet or is that wrong?

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It Ain't Over 'Till It's Over - WADA to Appeal.