Round 17 - Collingwood vs Box Hill at Victoria Park

Post by **Donny** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:15 pm

MagpieBat wrote:Siren.

FULL TIME!

Collingwood 13.14.92
Box Hill 12.9.81

OVER TO YOU!

Details please.

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:23 pm

MagpieBat wrote:
woodisgood wrote:thanks again bat for your sterling work.

awesome win against a quality outfit. who stood out for you?
Cheers mate!

Stand outs for me were Kennedy, Young and Ball.

JT also did pretty well.

Kennedy BOG by a very long way. Luke Ball second best - and led by example at the contest throughout (he really is a stand-out character to play the game that hard even in the 2s). I'm not so sure about Young. I felt that he butchered the ball all day - not once or twice but on almost every occasion. Still, he did get a lot of it.

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:38 pm

Thanks Bat great result beating the second placed team.

When do the VFL finals begin in comparison to the AFL season?

thompsoc · Post by **thompsoc** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:39 pm

mattys123 · Post by **mattys123** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:42 pm

Great win by the boys, 7 points down into time on and we looked gone, up stepped Bally, Kennedy and Young (who had all been good so far) and they just pounded the ball forward and we kicked the last 3 goals. Still a top 4 chance even now, great win.

Short review of each player;

4; Grundy; I thought he dominated the ruck but didn't do a heap around the ground, had a better second half than first half though, Better than Ceglar overall.
7; Kennedy; Decent first half but absolutely brilliant second half, we don't win that game without BK playing, he ran the game out sensationally well.
9; CLarke; At times you wouldn't have known he was out there, didn't do much at all.
12; Ball; Lifted the team late when it needed lifting. Won the hard ball all day, typical Luke Ball, too good for that level.
14; Young; Our most consistent player of the day, kept running, kept using it well most of the time and was a key to us winning, comes back into the seniors.
21; Lynch; Battled up forward, didn't do much.
24; Thomas; Ended the game better than he started but really should be doing more at this level. Will end up looking ok possession wise but didn't impact the game enough.
28; Sinclair; Brilliant at times then went missing at others, of course that was because his fitness isn't up yet. We've actually missed his type in the seniors.
31; Ramsay; Doesn't get beaten one on one too often but is a slow footballer, did ok without being good.
33; Karnezis; Kicked 2 goals today but one was a freebie, battled away but really looked short of a run.
35; Scharenberg; First time I've seen him live and even though he didn't do much his poise and intelligence will see him develop into an AFL player for sure.
38; Yagmoor, Did he even play? Ok, so he did ok defensively but if he had 10 possessions I'll be shocked
44; Gault; One of his better games for us, took a strong pack mark late and goaled to seal the game, rucked well too, I like how he's developing.
46; Marsh, I love this kid, quick, skillfull and learning how to play the game. Very good defensively today once again.
48; Mooney; Didn't do enough.

Of the VFL listed players Hellier, Williams, Ferguson and Matheson did well.

Handy win for the VFL season, almost certain to play finals now.

Post by **stui magpie** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:02 pm

Good to see Gault is starting to show some signs. Hopefully this will get him another year next year.

MagpieBat · Post by **MagpieBat** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:23 pm

swoop42 wrote:Thanks Bat great result beating the second placed team.

When do the VFL finals begin in comparison to the AFL season?

Cheers swoop. Like you avatar, by the way...

On the VFL finals, they begin in round 23 of the AFL. Given we play Hawthorn on a Friday night that weekend, we won't have to carry an emergency over...

Albert Parker · Post by **Albert Parker** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:05 pm

FYI - Pies website gave the votes to
3 ball
2 Dasher
1 Kennedy

John Wren · Post by **John Wren** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:28 pm

kyle cheney had a very strong last quarter. was nearly the difference between a win and loss.

Dave The Man · Post by **Dave The Man** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:28 pm

the berg got the ball a few times and
promptly turned it over
but he moves like a good footballe

Would of Helped if the Player he was Kicking too would Attack the Ball and not just sit and wait

John Wren · Post by **John Wren** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:31 pm

mattys123 wrote:Great win by the boys, 7 points down into time on and we looked gone, up stepped Bally, Kennedy and Young (who had all been good so far) and they just pounded the ball forward and we kicked the last 3 goals. Still a top 4 chance even now, great win.

Short review of each player;

4; Grundy; I thought he dominated the ruck but didn't do a heap around the ground, had a better second half than first half though, Better than Ceglar overall.
7; Kennedy; Decent first half but absolutely brilliant second half, we don't win that game without BK playing, he ran the game out sensationally well.
9; CLarke; At times you wouldn't have known he was out there, didn't do much at all.
12; Ball; Lifted the team late when it needed lifting. Won the hard ball all day, typical Luke Ball, too good for that level.
14; Young; Our most consistent player of the day, kept running, kept using it well most of the time and was a key to us winning, comes back into the seniors.
21; Lynch; Battled up forward, didn't do much.
24; Thomas; Ended the game better than he started but really should be doing more at this level. Will end up looking ok possession wise but didn't impact the game enough.
28; Sinclair; Brilliant at times then went missing at others, of course that was because his fitness isn't up yet. We've actually missed his type in the seniors.
31; Ramsay; Doesn't get beaten one on one too often but is a slow footballer, did ok without being good.
33; Karnezis; Kicked 2 goals today but one was a freebie, battled away but really looked short of a run.
35; Scharenberg; First time I've seen him live and even though he didn't do much his poise and intelligence will see him develop into an AFL player for sure.
38; Yagmoor, Did he even play? Ok, so he did ok defensively but if he had 10 possessions I'll be shocked
44; Gault; One of his better games for us, took a strong pack mark late and goaled to seal the game, rucked well too, I like how he's developing.
46; Marsh, I love this kid, quick, skillfull and learning how to play the game. Very good defensively today once again.
48; Mooney; Didn't do enough.

Of the VFL listed players Hellier, Williams, Ferguson and Matheson did well.

Handy win for the VFL season, almost certain to play finals now.

jt played forward a bit. we had too many mids which may sound like a good problem to have but this meant they had to run through the forwards more than desirable.

thompsoc · Post by **thompsoc** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:32 pm

Dave The Man wrote:
the berg got the ball a few times and
promptly turned it over
but he moves like a good footballe
Would of Helped if the Player he was Kicking too would Attack the Ball and not just sit and wait

absolutely true dtm
i thought he overcooked the ball a fraction
a little bit shorter and the reciever could have
run onto it.
But really you are 99% right

rand corp · Post by **rand corp** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:21 pm

thanks for the time and effort to give us the commentary and reports guys much appreciated

swoop42 · Post by **swoop42** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 9:33 pm

MagpieBat wrote:
swoop42 wrote:Thanks Bat great result beating the second placed team.

When do the VFL finals begin in comparison to the AFL season?
Cheers swoop. Like you avatar, by the way...

On the VFL finals, they begin in round 23 of the AFL. Given we play Hawthorn on a Friday night that weekend, we won't have to carry an emergency over...

Well if finals are out of the equation for the senior side come then then let's just load up our VFL side as much as possible.

What are the game requirements that need to be met to allow senior listed players to play in the VFL finals?

MagpieBat · Post by **MagpieBat** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:30 am

swoop42 wrote:
MagpieBat wrote:
swoop42 wrote:Thanks Bat great result beating the second placed team.

When do the VFL finals begin in comparison to the AFL season?
Cheers swoop. Like you avatar, by the way...

On the VFL finals, they begin in round 23 of the AFL. Given we play Hawthorn on a Friday night that weekend, we won't have to carry an emergency over...
Well if finals are out of the equation for the senior side come then then let's just load up our VFL side as much as possible.

What are the game requirements that need to be met to allow senior listed players to play in the VFL finals?

From memory, it's having played six VFL games, if that player has played in the senior side after July 1st.

I'll have to go consult my copy of the rules, but in a nutshell, the guys who have spent most/all the season in the VFL (Martin, Marsh, Ramsay, Lynch, Mooney, Karnezis, etc) all qualify.

In any event, however, because the seniors play a home and away game on the same weekend as the first week of the VFL finals, then that means the restrictions relating to player eligibility do not apply. Basically, if your seniors play the same weekend as your reserves in September, you get unrestricted selection...

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Round 17 - Collingwood vs Box Hill at Victoria Park