"The Circle" can VC recipient.

[The Prototype]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnWCGLwSDqg

Oh, for heaven's sake. Negus was just making a joke about muscular men in general. Totally harmless. Stynes' comment was a bit more uncalled for, but hardly reason to announce martial law. She suggested that a soldier was stupid; would anyone have complained if she'd made the same comment about a rugby league player?

Didn't a presenter or something once come out and call NRL players stupid?

I think it may have happened... I could be wrong.

Maybe it was someone else making comments about NRL players on youtube...

[David]

[Doc63]

^ You just cant argue with that kind of "logic". As Karl Pilkington says: "Its done my head in!!"

[think positive]

My daughter turned 18 last week, and got her licence.

i posted a comment on my facebook when she picked junior up from school. something along the lines of ..scary...

my dad made the comment"see Jo, i told you, ONE DAY YOU WILL GET IT."

David, i truly hope you do

over and out!!

[Pi]

[rocketronnie]

[Member 7167]

David Wrote
"none of these were wars fought in Australia's national interest"


So David, does that mean that counties can do what they want to countries that would be our traditional allies and we won't get involved as long as we are not threatened directly?

Once they have conquered these countries what do you think they would do next?

I would rather see good men (and non aggressive democratic countries) stand together and protect their mutual interests from an aggressor than see them stand alone and fall. This applies to bullies as much as rouge states.

Using your theory what would have happened to Australia if Japan had attacked us first and not the USA. Should they have sat on the sideline and observed us being annihilated?

[rocketronnie]

David Wrote
"none of these were wars fought in Australia's national interest"


So David, does that mean that counties can do what they want to countries that would be our traditional allies and we won't get involved as long as we are not threatened directly?

Once they have conquered these countries what do you think they would do next?

I would rather see good men (and non aggressive democratic countries) stand together and protect their mutual interests from an aggressor than see them stand alone and fall. This applies to bullies as much as rouge states.*

Using your theory what would have happened to Australia if Japan had attacked us first and not the USA. Should they have sat on the sideline and observed us being annihilated?

Silly question. (a) they didnt and (b) They wouldn't have as strategically it made no sense whatsoever to do so.

Still its good to see you peddling the good old Domino Theory, it always gets a run sooner or later in moments like this.....

* - If some dictator chooses to wear lipstick, well that's his or her choice. I'm not going to war over that

[Member 7167]

RR,

you have left me a little rouge in the face.

Whilst I agree that the Domino Effect in respect to the spread of Communism in Asia did not eventuate, many aggressive states have worked their way from one contry to another. Certainly the Japanese did this in WW2 as did the Romans when growing their empire.

[Pi]

[sq3]

David - We can only hope that one day we never have to rely on pacifists or people like you to defend any person or country.

As I say to my wife whenever we see a peace rally - the muslim armies would slaughter all these people without a single thought - but these 'do gooders' seem to live live in Wonderland where everyone is good and nothing bad really happens.

One day you may see it differently.

[5150]

[David]

David Wrote
"none of these were wars fought in Australia's national interest"


So David, does that mean that counties can do what they want to countries that would be our traditional allies and we won't get involved as long as we are not threatened directly?

Once they have conquered these countries what do you think they would do next?

I would rather see good men (and non aggressive democratic countries) stand together and protect their mutual interests from an aggressor than see them stand alone and fall. This applies to bullies as much as rouge states.

Using your theory what would have happened to Australia if Japan had attacked us first and not the USA. Should they have sat on the sideline and observed us being annihilated?

I make an exception for our military activity in South-East Asia in WW2. Whether Japan were a direct threat or not, they were certainly perceived to be. Our activity in North Africa and the Middle East, however, had little to do with Australia's interests; it was at the behest of the Empire. Now, we may rightly look back on those battles with pride considering the malevolence of Hitler and Mussolini, but I think it's important to save the 'dying for our country' rhetoric for where it's warranted. While that doesn't make the deaths of Australian soldiers any less tragic or less brave, it does mean that we should consider typical war rhetoric more skeptically.

[David]

[rocketronnie]

David Wrote
"none of these were wars fought in Australia's national interest"


So David, does that mean that counties can do what they want to countries that would be our traditional allies and we won't get involved as long as we are not threatened directly?

Once they have conquered these countries what do you think they would do next?

I would rather see good men (and non aggressive democratic countries) stand together and protect their mutual interests from an aggressor than see them stand alone and fall. This applies to bullies as much as rouge states.

Using your theory what would have happened to Australia if Japan had attacked us first and not the USA. Should they have sat on the sideline and observed us being annihilated?

I make an exception for our military activity in South-East Asia in WW2. Whether Japan were a direct threat or not, they were certainly perceived to be. Our activity in North Africa and the Middle East, however, had little to do with Australia's interests; it was at the behest of the Empire. Now, we may rightly look back on those battles with pride considering the malevolence of Hitler and Mussolini, but I think it's important to save the 'dying for our country' rhetoric for where it's warranted. While that doesn't make the deaths of Australian soldiers any less tragic or less brave, it does mean that we should consider typical war rhetoric more skeptically.

I regard World War 2 as perhaps the first war that met just war principles. No matter what front it was fought on, the implications of defeat was dire indeed. I consider Allied soldiers who fought and/or died as fighting for humanity more than anything else.